tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post9153977651149171494..comments2024-03-26T00:47:55.322-07:00Comments on Shrikant G Talageri: The Recorded History of the Indo-European Migrations - Part 3 of 4 The Anu MigrationsShrikant Talagerihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15700049337974422213noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-16319926973604255102024-03-24T13:08:38.843-07:002024-03-24T13:08:38.843-07:00Mr Talageri, good afternoon... Did you publish par...Mr Talageri, good afternoon... Did you publish part 4 of this study? I am developing private research based on your opinions and it would be very useful for me to know the epilogue of your considerations on the topic. Thanks<br />netto@bhzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16105187215386750710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-46077362034131074562022-01-08T01:15:14.505-08:002022-01-08T01:15:14.505-08:00Still waiting for part 4 :(Still waiting for part 4 :(Kartikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02485194566377320351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-75705620964463014632019-12-17T06:27:19.720-08:002019-12-17T06:27:19.720-08:00Shrikanth Talageri, people are saying that Avestan...Shrikanth Talageri, people are saying that Avestan culture is older than Rig Veda and that Jarathu of book 7 of Rigveda is the same as zarathustra of Avesta. What do you think of claims that the Battle of Ten Kings took place in Afganistan? Abhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05292044395567931649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-59061853597608732512019-10-18T09:33:45.209-07:002019-10-18T09:33:45.209-07:00Hi,
I wanted to know if IVC was Indo aryan civilis...Hi,<br />I wanted to know if IVC was Indo aryan civilisation then why there are not any close relationship between two cultures. Except one teracota horse and one spooked wheels, no remains are there to prove cultural continuity. Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16057753364628308658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-70583604414686605742019-08-02T09:50:54.131-07:002019-08-02T09:50:54.131-07:00Dear Sir
Pardon me if I have missed it, but can w...Dear Sir<br /><br />Pardon me if I have missed it, but can we expect the final part of this series sometime soon?<br /><br />My apologies if you have already published it - I was unable to find any reference.<br /><br />Thanks and Regards<br />SriniSrinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10908356443174958011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-52692696933162018562018-07-23T22:06:39.918-07:002018-07-23T22:06:39.918-07:00Talagari ji, in Section 6. Dāśarājña: The Oldest R...Talagari ji, in Section 6. Dāśarājña: The Oldest Record of PIE Migrations. You have wrote that hymn VII.83.1 mentioned the Parśu/Parśava, Pṛthu/Pārthava tribes/people. But in Griffith traslation of the hyms says<br /><br />"LOOKING to you and your alliance, O ye Men, armed with broad axes they went forward, fain for spoil.<br />Ye smote and slew his Dāsa and his Āryan enemies, and helped Sudās with favour, Indra-Varuṇa."<br /><br />However the actual Sanskrit version says<br /><br />"yuvāṃ narā paśyamānāsa āpyaṃ prācā ghavyantaḥ pṛthuparśavo yayuḥ |<br />dāsā ca vṛtrā hatamāryāṇi ca sudāsamindrāvaruṇāvasāvatam || "<br /><br />the word "pṛthuparśavo" represent this.<br /><br />so why didn't Griffith used those terms and which terms he had used in place of them?arish108https://www.blogger.com/profile/13426868500839924438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-26711723473440774962017-09-17T09:54:16.389-07:002017-09-17T09:54:16.389-07:00@Ganesh Iyer:
You say, "I am told that there ...@Ganesh Iyer:<br />You say, "I am told that there is no word for brick in the Rigveda."<br /><br />I don't know of the Rig Veda but the word "brick" occurs several times in the Satapatha Brahmana of the Sukla Yajur veda, in reference to brick-built altars for yajnas or sacrifices. <br /><br />Look here: http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sbr/sbe43/sbe4361.htm#fn_666Prithvihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271990250617887435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-67086370726793187672017-06-08T08:10:33.840-07:002017-06-08T08:10:33.840-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Prithvihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271990250617887435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-50341989676518979092017-06-08T08:07:16.574-07:002017-06-08T08:07:16.574-07:00Aryan invasion theory is simply foreigners writing...Aryan invasion theory is simply foreigners writing the history of a colonized country. Who gave them that right or authority? Shouldn't be taken seriously. Prithvihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271990250617887435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-64238589170548833162017-06-08T07:18:38.847-07:002017-06-08T07:18:38.847-07:00One thing I don't understand is why the wester...One thing I don't understand is why the western indologists disregard the Puranas, the traditional history of India, but they accept the Rig Veda? Why is this the case? Prithvihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271990250617887435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-31069909095382582392017-06-08T07:09:27.920-07:002017-06-08T07:09:27.920-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Prithvihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271990250617887435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-67328452591140519172017-06-07T07:24:58.278-07:002017-06-07T07:24:58.278-07:00They found Swastika seals dating back to 3000 BC i...They found Swastika seals dating back to 3000 BC in the indus valley civilization. These are one of the oldest seals in archaeological record. "Swasti" also occurs in the Rig Veda and is a prominent Hindu symbol. Prithvihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271990250617887435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-58540947418266572132017-06-04T02:50:42.250-07:002017-06-04T02:50:42.250-07:00You are right, life is too short to waste time rep...You are right, life is too short to waste time repeating the same things over and over again to people whose minds are closed and whose ends are political in nature.Shrikant Talagerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15700049337974422213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-59033797206427745842017-06-03T23:25:32.427-07:002017-06-03T23:25:32.427-07:00Dear Shri Talageri,
My submission to you is to ob...Dear Shri Talageri,<br /><br />My submission to you is to objectively look at history and events related to our past.<br />The debate on the origins of the Vedic civilization will remain inconclusive till hard evidence based on facts emerge. <br />A lot of work has been done in this regard by our archaeologists belonging to the ASI. <br />Material evidence of the Vedic period can give us proof of the culture of that age. <br />Linguistics is another area where work has been done on the subject. <br />It requires many years of hard work to arrive at the right conclusions. <br />If we close our minds,I am afraid, our past will be hijacked to serve ends which are political in nature.Ganesh Iyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00136080464253079056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-66577328393861024042017-06-03T04:54:01.091-07:002017-06-03T04:54:01.091-07:00The question "how can we conclude that the Ve...The question "how can we conclude that the Vedic people occupied the same geographical area and the time period as those of the Harappan civilization" frankly leaves me floored. Am I expected to quote the entire text of part 2 of this very article series posted on this very blogspot in reply to this question? The tactic of ignoring all the evidence that is given (since it is unanswerable and unchallengeable), and in fact acting as if no evidence has been given at all, and then raising quibbling objections is a very very stale and defeatist attitude. Every single one of the "points" you have raised has been answered in detail in my books,and I am sorry I cannot quote the entire texts of my books in reply to this question. Have you any argument, logic or data to show that the evidence given by me is wrong? You are of course free to "await further findings" which you will accept as "adding to your knowledge" only if they turn out to be convenient to your predetermined prejudices. Shrikant Talagerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15700049337974422213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-31161741555489781302017-06-03T03:34:17.359-07:002017-06-03T03:34:17.359-07:00The conclusions drawn by Shri Talageri regarding t...The conclusions drawn by Shri Talageri regarding the Vedic civilization should also be backed by linguistic and archaeological evidence. <br />The excavations at the sites of the Harappan civilization reveal the presence of structures made of baked bricks, with which the Vedic people were not familiar. <br />I am told that there is no word for brick in the Rigveda. <br />The horse is central to the Rigvedic people and finds frequent mention in the poems. <br />No horse bones have been found at the sites of the Harappan civilization.<br />The language of some portions of the Rigveda is in an old form of Sanskrit and the later poetic compositions in this text show that the Sanskrit language itself underwent an evolution in the Indian sub-continent with the passage of time. <br />Another point to be remembered is that the Harappan script awaits decipherment. <br />If these are the material evidences on record, how can we conclude that the Vedic people occupied the same geographical area and the time period as those the Harappan civilization? <br />Archaeology and linguistics are rigorous sciences which will deepen our understanding of the Vedic people, their origins and language. <br />We must await further findings which will add to our knowledge of these people. Ganesh Iyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00136080464253079056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-7512305169554097582017-06-03T03:12:50.731-07:002017-06-03T03:12:50.731-07:00This is an interesting piece of information. I hop...This is an interesting piece of information. I hope it is backed by authenticated data. We need to be careful in analyzing and interpreting historical data, since rigorous & objective analysis only will help us to arrive at the truth.Ganesh Iyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00136080464253079056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-60776828810243122052017-05-29T03:53:16.837-07:002017-05-29T03:53:16.837-07:00Sir I request you to read Bernardo D'souza'...Sir I request you to read Bernardo D'souza's The Last Prabhu. He is a Saraswat Brahmin Christian. He took a genetic test and the test concluded that his ancestors migrated from Mesopotamia to Saraswati River region and then to Kashmir and then to the Konkan via Gujarat most likely.<br /><br />Bet Dwarka is also known as Kushasthali! It is likely that the migrant Saraswats decided to name the location of the Gaudapadacharya Math as Kushasthali or decided to build it in Goa's Kushasthali.<br /><br />The book is available on Amazon. I have the Kindle version.Ravihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05914430663859795602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-12728894640668528082017-05-24T06:32:20.343-07:002017-05-24T06:32:20.343-07:00Dear Sir,
Your article as anyone can see is full ...Dear Sir,<br /><br />Your article as anyone can see is full of information !. Thank you for this hard worked and long awaited article! . BTW I want to suggest something , Anau is not an ancient name, and means 'new water':<br />http://eurasia.travel/turkmenistan/cities/around_ashgabat/anew_anau/<br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anau<br />Nirjhar007https://www.blogger.com/profile/12880827026479135118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-80542219942740080002017-05-18T21:43:10.529-07:002017-05-18T21:43:10.529-07:001. The battle must have taken place around 3000 BC...1. The battle must have taken place around 3000 BCE+/-.<br />2. The basic historical data in the Puranas has been given in detail by Pargiter, Pusalker and others with references, quoted in my books.<br />3. I will complete and upload "The Elephant and the PIE Homeland" on this blog, hopefully by at least two weeks. <br />Shrikant Talagerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15700049337974422213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-63767885553302615502017-05-18T16:02:41.772-07:002017-05-18T16:02:41.772-07:00Wow, it's been a while, I thought you forgot t...Wow, it's been a while, I thought you forgot to write! Glad to see this article!<br /><br />Three questions:<br /><br />1) When did battle of ten kings happen?<br />2) What Puranas did you reference?<br />3) Where can I read "The Elephant and the PIE Homeland"<br /><br />ThanksPrithvihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01271990250617887435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-48437393904748366512017-05-10T17:45:38.057-07:002017-05-10T17:45:38.057-07:00Thank you very much for your very encouraging resp...Thank you very much for your very encouraging response. It was mainly my vertigo problems which caused the delay. I will try to start and finish the next part within a month or two. There is also my other half-finished article "The Elephant and the PIE Homeland".Shrikant Talagerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15700049337974422213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-24470439248370195692017-05-10T14:15:06.018-07:002017-05-10T14:15:06.018-07:00sir, you made us wait almost a year for part 3 !!!...sir, you made us wait almost a year for part 3 !!! eagerly waiting for this post.... i hope part 4 will come soon as well... god bless....<br />Srinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10908356443174958011noreply@blogger.com