[An old article written by me in 2014, already presented on other sites (e.g. Koenraad Elst's blogspot) but which I now feel necessary, in the light of my last two blog articles, and for direct reference in any future debates or discussions, to place on my own blogspot. The only changes I have made are: a) in the URL of the site which mentions Hock's talk, b) in a place where I have rather crudely used a phrase "mentally retarded", which I felt a bit excessive after it appeared on the internet, and which I now replace with "stupid and mentally dense", and c) a rather silly phrase I used in referring to the opposite of "real Indians", which I have deleted]
Hans Henrich Hock
A "Scholar" Lying Through His Teeth
Hans Henrich Hock,
Professor Emeritus of Linguistics and Sanskrit at the University of Illinois,
and a prolific speaker and crusader for certain points of view on various
forums, including the internet and particularly Youtube, spoke at the Lucy
Ellis Lounge of the University on 9/9/2013. A summary of the gist of his talk will be found
at the following site:
In this summary of his
talk, there is a reference to my name in the context of the three books written
by me on the problem of the Indo-European Homeland: "only 'Aryans',
i.e. Hindus, are real Indians; e.g. Talageri 1993ab, 2008".
In his review of my
third book (2008) on his internet blog, Koenraad Elst had disapproved of my
criticism of “mild-mannered Prof. H.H. Hock” in
that book in my rebuttal of a linguistic argument made by him. Elst further
elaborated to me personally later that Hock was, in his well considered
opinion, a reasonably honest, open-minded and unbiased scholar.
Is
Hock an honest scholar or is he an agenda-driven “scholar” who can be brazenly
dishonest and can lie through his teeth when it suits his purpose to malign and
libel the writings of someone whom he regards as being from an academically
opposite point of view? We will examine this in detail in respect of the above
reference to my name in the above summary of his talk at the Illinois University.
His statement summarizes
the three main “ideologically motivated”
equations which I am alleged to have presented in my books:
- “Aryans” = Hindus
- Only “Aryans” are “Real Indians”
- Only Hindus are “Real Indians”
Further, his statement
announces that:
- I presented these three equations in my books.
- These equations in fact represent a complete summing up of everything written in my books.
- My book is the leading or most typical representative of the ideological agenda behind these three equations.
Note the following
points:
1. My three books
present a complete and irrefutable case for the hypothesis that the
Indo-European languages originated in India. The data is so varied and complete
and so final that I challenge anyone to examine my data, analysis and conclusions
and prove where I am wrong. I can not of course insist as a personal right that
every scholar of the Indo-European Homeland question should accept my
hypothesis and admit that whatever he wrote all these years is wrong. I can not
even insist as a right that such scholars should at all take cognizance of my
books and my hypothesis. The truth, whatever it is, will ultimately prevail in
the course of time. But, if any such scholar does take official cognizance of
my books, I do have an intellectual right to expect that he deals with a minimum amount of fairness and honesty
with my case.
What Hock does is he refers
to my books, but completely and absolutely ignores everything relevant to the academic
discussion contained in those books. In an act of extreme intellectual
cowardice, hypocrisy and charlatanism, Hock treats the entire content of all
my three books (1993b, 2000, 2008) as completely non-existent, and
sums up my entire case as consisting of an ideological agenda which he derives
from three extraneous non-academic additional chapters contained in version
1993a of the first book. (His bibliography in the above summary refers to them
as follows: “Talageri, Shrikant G.
1993a. Aryan invasion theory and Indian nationalism. New Delhi: Voice of India.Talageri,
Shrikant G. 1993b. The Aryan invasion theory: A reappraisal. New Delhi: Aditya
Prakashan. [≈ 1993a, omitting the first, Hindutva-ideological chapter.]”).
2. Not only does he
treat the sum of my entire case in my three books as consisting only of the
ideological message he derives from the three additional extraneous chapters
contained in version 1993a of the first book, but he lies through his teeth
even in summing up the ideological message in these three chapters, and gives
the gist of my books as “only 'Aryans', i.e. Hindus, are real Indians”,
which, as we will see in detail in this article, is an outright and a brazen lie.
3. Finally, in the
same above summary, he advises all scholars studying the Indo-European question
(or perhaps any historical question involving India) to suppress facts and
self-censor their own studies and conclusions so as not to provide any quotable
material favorable to any “Indian
nationalist” agenda: “Indo-Europeanists must
exercise caution, lest they unwittingly support ideologically motivated agendas”
We will examine in detail these
three ideological equations supposed to represent the sum total of my three
books.
“Aryans”=Hindus
To begin with, I have made it clear
everywhere in my books that the word “Aryan” is a word which just incidentally
came to be applied to what we would now call the “Indo-European” languages, and
after the Nazi misuse of the word, it is usually used only for the
“Indo-Iranian” languages, whose oldest texts, the Rigveda and the Avesta, seem
to use the word in a first-person sense. It is therefore a purely linguistic
word which applies to languages and not to a group of people.
Again, wherever the word is used in
my books for a group of people even in the linguistic sense of “people speaking
the Indo-European languages”, it is only used for the hypothetical
Proto-Indo-European speakers (mainly in quotations or discussions where the
word is so used), or, more regularly for the ancient Vedic people in the phrase
“Vedic Aryans” (the word “Vedic” always a necessary part of the combined phrase).
The use of the word in a racial or
ethnic sense to be identified with any living community of the present day has
been completely rejected by me in detail right from my first book in a full chapter
“The Racial Evidence” (TALAGERI 1993a:236-253).
Further, I have, in great detail, throughout
my three books, made it clear that even from the Indian Homeland point of view,
the “Vedic Aryans” were not the ancestral race of the entire present-day population
of India
in any sense of the term. The “Vedic Aryans” were just one of many tribes
inhabiting North India in ancient times. Specifically,
“the Vedic Aryans were the Purus of the ancient texts. And in fact, the particular
Vedic Aryans of the Rigveda were one section among these Purus,
who called themselves Bharatas” (TALAGERI 2000:138), the Purus/Bharatas
being the ancient inhabitants of Haryana, eastern Punjab
and western U.P.
And, for people whose dull brains
fail to get the detailed messages repeatedly hammered throughout the pages of
my three voluminous books, I once again reiterated in the last chapter of my
third book: “there is no direct ethnic
connection between the identities of different peoples of the Rigvedic period
and the identities of actual different peoples living in present-day India, or
indeed in the world today” (TALAGERI 2008:363), and, even more
specifically, ”Nor is there any group,
caste or community in India which can be directly identified ethnically with the Purus: neither the
inhabitants (or particular castes from among them) of present-day Haryana, U.P.
or Punjab, nor the different Brahmin groups, found in every part of India,
which claim direct descent from the different families of rsis of the Rigveda….In short, the history of Vedic times is
just that: the history of Vedic times.
It has to do with the history of civilizations and language families, and must
be recognized as such; but it does not have anything
whatsoever to do with relations between different ethnic, caste or communal
groups of the present day. The biases and conflicts of ancient times are the
biases and conflicts of ancient peoples with
whom present day peoples have no direct connections” (TALAGERI 2008:365-6).
These are just a few quotations from
my three books. I could produce countless more such quotations to show that I
have continuously reiterated that the word “Aryans” can not be used even in any
ethnic sense, let alone in a religious
sense, for any group or community of people of the present day. Can anyone
produce even one quotation to the contrary from my three books to show that I have in fact identified “Aryans” with a
specific present day group of people, let alone a religious group like Hindus?
Only “Aryans” are “Real
Indians”
When I have nowhere
identified Aryans with any modern day group of people, is it possible that “Only ‘Aryans’ are ‘Real Indians’”
could in any way be a central point of the case presented in my books?
[Incidentally, I have not used the
phrase “real Indians” even once in
my three books or anywhere else. In fact, I can not even imagine what such a
phrase would be supposed to mean. What for example would be the opposite of “real Indians”: false Indians, fake
Indians, unreal Indians, imaginary Indians, fictional Indians, counterfeit
Indians …?]
In my very introduction to my first
book, I wrote: “In India today the
languages spoken by Indians belong to six language families:
1.Indo-European (Aryan)… 2.Dravidian… 3.Austric… 4.Sino-Tibetan…
5.Andamanese… 6.Burushaski” (TALAGERI 1993a:3). Does this statement somehow
indicate that I am saying that only the “Aryan” language speaking people are
“Real Indians”, while those speaking languages belonging to any of the other
families are not? Is there any other statement anywhere throughout my three
books which even hints at such an idea?
Only
Hindus are “Real Indians”
Now when I say that Indians
speak languages belonging to these six language families, does it mean
that only the Hindus among the speakers of these six language families are
“Real Indians”, while the Muslims and Christians are not? Is there in fact a
single statement anywhere in my three books which indicates that?
I have, in these three extraneous
chapters (included only in version 1993a of my first book, but excluded in
version 1993b, which, like the two later books, is purely academic and
technical in its contents), successfully countered the political ideologies
which flourish in India, leftist and rightist, which are based on the theory that
Hinduism is the evolved form of a foreign religion brought into India by
“Aryan” invaders in 1500 BCE and therefore analogous to Christianity and Islam
which were foreign religions brought into India by imperialist invaders. I have
examined the issue from every angle and pointed out that, “Aryan invasion” or
not, Hinduism is a totally (”Real”?) Indian religion while Christianity and
Islam are totally foreign religions, and that “while Hinduism Indianizes foreigners, Islam and Christianity foreignize
or de-Indianize Indians” (TALAGERI 1993a:47).
This may be a bitter pill for many
people to swallow, and it may even seem irrelevant to many, but is it
technically incorrect? Can anyone prove, to take the very first and simplest
premise, that Kashi, Ayodhya Mathura, Madurai,
Rameshwaram, Tirupati, Puri, etc. are geographically located outside India, or
that Mecca, Medina, Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Karbala, the Vatican, etc., are
geographically located inside India? That the Hindu texts portray an area
outside India,
with heroes and religious figures from those lands, or that the religious texts
of Christianity and Islam portray an area inside India with Indian heroes and
religious figures? Will even any Christian or Muslim in his senses make any
such assertion?
But is Hock so stupid or mentally dense
that when I describe Christianity and Islam, and the cultures brought in by
these two religions and adopted by converts, as “foreign” or “non-Indian”, in
contrast with Hinduism and its culture which are “Indian”, he automatically concludes
that I am saying that “Only Hindus are
‘Real Indians’”? Is there no difference between religious and cultural ideologies
on the one hand, and flesh and blood human beings on the other? Can anyone
produce a single statement in all my three books, and in my other writings,
where I even suggest that “Only Hindus
are ‘Real Indians’”?
In fact, note the following clear
statements from those very three chapters where I describe (and which I do only
to make very clear, point by point, the falseness of those who try to brand
Hinduism as a foreign religion like Islam and Christianity) the Indianness of
Hinduism in contrast with the foreignness of Islam and Christianity: I firmly
reject the “petty and ridiculous idea of
dividing Indians into ‘outsiders’ and ‘insiders’ on the basis of whether or not
their ancestors actually, or supposedly, came from outside” (TALAGERI 1993a:47),
I point out that “in historic times,
there were invasions of India by Persians, Greeks, Scythians, Kushans and Huns.
Many of the invaders stayed in India
and got integrated into the population. Today some anthropologist may manage to
dig out material and claim that some community, or the other, constitutes the
descendants of one, or the other, of those invaders. But who would treat such a
claim, even if it were proved beyond any doubt, as the basis for branding that
community as a ‘foreign’ community? Indian society and culture have been known
for their capacity for synthesis and assimilation, and every single foreign community
entering India,
right from ancient times, has been completely absorbed into the Indian identity”.
(TALAGERI 1993a:46)
Do I exclude Muslims and Christians
from this Indian identity? “Muslim and
Christian fundamentalists may identify wholly with their foreign brethren, and
some Muslims may even gloat at the idea that they are the descendants of
Islamic heroes who ‘conquered and ruled’ a land teeming with kafirs, the fact remains that they
are all Indians, as much as the Hindus” (TALAGERI 1993a:46).
In fact, the only reason why the
three chapters were written at all was not to promote any “ideologically motivated agenda”, but to counter already flourishing and viciously active “ideologically motivated agendas” which
are wreaking havoc on the Indian body politic by propagating on a war footing that
Brahmins or “upper castes” in general are the descendants of “Aryan invaders”, and
only “lower castes” or “tribals” or “South Indians” are “indigenous people”.
These “ideologically motivated agendas”
are widely promoted by anarchist, leftist, missionary, and anti-Hindu elements
in India,
and “Indo-Europeanists” like Hock “unwittingly [or deliberately] support [these]
ideologically motivated agendas”.
Far from claiming that
the Aryan invasion theory, or its opposite, the Indian homeland theory, has
present day implications for India, I end my three extraneous chapters as
follows: “Did, indeed any ‘Aryans’ ever
invade, or even immigrate into India from outside? Shorn of its leftist and
anti-Hindu corollaries, this becomes a purely academic question with no
present-day political implications. This academic question will be dealt
with in the next two sections of this book” (TALAGERI 1993a:47).
Consequently, the rest of the book (=1993b), as well as my next two books
(2000, 2008) are purely academic analyses of the Indo-European homeland
question.
So when Hock sums up the case
presented in my three books as "only
'Aryans', i.e. Hindus, are real Indians; e.g. Talageri 1993ab, 2008",
would it be an exaggeration or in any way wrong to say that we have here a case
of a fake and fraudulent “scholar”, in pursuance of his own “ideologically motivated agenda”, calculatedly
lying through his teeth to spread libelous canards against another writer whom
he wishes to malign?
Only
“Aryan” religion/culture, i.e. Hindu religion/culture, is Real Indian
religion/culture
Hock talks of flesh and blood people
when he summarizes my books in one line as “only
'Aryans', i.e. Hindus, are real Indians; e.g. Talageri 1993ab, 2008”.
Can we assume that what he may actually
be meaning is that my three chapters are claiming that “Only “Aryan” religion/culture, i.e. Hindu religion/culture, is Real
Indian religion/culture”? That is not what he actually says, and in any
case it does not excuse his insolence in treating the content of my three
extraneous chapters as the sum total of my books and case, but let us examine
if what I have written in my books and in my other writings amounts to even
that.
Today, there are many Indians who are
so proud of their Vedic heritage and of the Sanskrit language that they like to
imagine Vedic civilization to have been the ancestral civilization of the whole
world. To such people, Vedic religion is definitely at least the ancestral religion
of the whole of India, the fountainhead from which all aspects of Indian religion
have developed, and all other cultures within India are derived from
Sanskrit/Vedic culture and must be further Sanskritized/Hinduized to make them
really Indian. There are many writers, organizations and internet sites which
promote such views. Am I also saying the same thing in my books?
To begin with religion: in the third
of these three chapters, entitled ”Hinduism
as an ‘Aryan’ religion and the ‘Aryans’ as foreigners” (TALAGERI 1993a:35-47),
I point out that as per the Aryan Invasion theory itself “almost
every aspect of Hinduism as we know it today, certainly every feature relevant
to the religion, is supposed to be of ‘pre-Aryan’ origin” (TALAGERI 1993a:35).
I elaborate in detail in this chapter that the only “Aryan” aspects of Hinduism
are supposed to be “‘worship…of the
elements’ (fire, air, water, sky) [….] ritual
worship of fire, in the form of yajna”
(TALAGERI 1993a:34) and “the Sanskrit
language and the Vedic texts” (TALAGERI 1993a:40). I reiterate throughout
this chapter that apart from these, “all
the fundamental features of Hinduism are supposed to be ’pre-Aryan’” and
that as per the Aryan Invasion Theory itself, “Hinduism is practically a ‘pre-Aryan’ [….] religion adopted by the ‘Aryans’” (TALAGERI 1993a:39).
Is this only “as per the Aryan
Invasion theory itself” that this is so, and do I present a different picture
in my Out-of-India case? On the contrary, except for my postulation that the
original Indo-European homeland was in India, and therefore the word
“pre-Aryan” is meaningless in the context, my picture of Hinduism is
practically the same.
I postulate, with evidence, that “the Vedic Aryans were the Purus
of the ancient texts. And in fact, the particular Vedic Aryans of the Rigveda
were one section among these Purus, who called
themselves Bharatas” (TALAGERI 2000:138), and they were inhabitants of
Haryana, eastern Punjab and western U.P. I
describe the process of the formation of Hinduism from the Vedic “Aryan” religion,
in my very first book itself, as follows: “The
modern Indo-Aryan languages are not descendants of the Rigvedic dialects, but
of other dialects which were contemporaneous with the Rigvedic dialects, but
which belonged to a different section of Indo-European speech (the Inner
Indo-European section). The Vedic dialects died away in the course of time, and
their speech area [….] was taken
over by the Inner Indo-European dialects. But long before they died away, the
Vedic dialects had set in motion a powerful wave of a cult movement which
covered the entire nation in its sweep. This Vedic cult also finally gave
way to the local pan-Indian religion of the Inner-Indo-Europeans and
Dravidian-language speakers, but continued to remain in force as the elite
layer of this pan-Indian religion” (TALAGERI 1993a:230). The “Vedic Aryan”
religion of the Purus, as exemplified in the Rigveda and subsequent Samhitas,
was rather like the Iranian religion of the Anus found in the Avesta, and most
of the fundamental, common and most popular aspects of Hinduism today are
originally features of religious systems of the Inner Indo-European (tribal
conglomerates other than the Purus and Anus), Dravidian and Austric language
speakers of mainland India. This is the hypothesis I have been postulating
throughout my three books.
Whether or not anyone, from either
side, likes this formulation or agrees with it, certainly no-one can claim that
I am pushing an agenda equating “‘Aryan’
religion” with Hinduism.
The same goes for culture in
general, and even more so. The context did not arise in the three extraneous
chapters (in 1993a) which have been made the basis of an ideological indictment
of my entire case by this dodgy “scholar”. But in my other writings, I have
discussed Hindu nationalism and Indian culture in great detail, notably in my
2005 article on Hindu Nationalism (TALAGERI 2005).
In this article, I have described in
great detail the greatness and richness of Indian culture, and quoting myself
from an earlier 1997 article, I wrote: “Indian
culture refers not just to the cultural practices springing from Vedic or
Sanskritic sources, but from all other Indian sources independently of these:
the practices of the Andaman islanders and the (pre-Christian) Nagas are as
Hindu in the territorial sense, and Sanatana in the spiritual sense, as
classical Sanskritic Hinduism” (TALAGERI 2005:252). Further on in the
article, again quoting myself from an earlier 2002 article, I categorically pointed
out: “I am opposed to even internal cultural
imperialism. The idea that Vedic or Sanskrit culture represents Indian culture
and that other cultures within India are its subcultures and must be
incorporated into it, is wrong….All other cultures native to this land: the
culture of the Andaman islanders, the Nagas, the Mundas, the tribes of
Arunachal Pradesh, etc. are all Indian in their own right. They don’t have
to be – and should not be – Sanskritized to make them Indian” (TALAGERI
2005:293).
In the same article I wrote at
length about how the Andamanese culture (not “Aryan” by any stretch of the
term, and Hindu only in the sense that everything indigenous to India can be
called Hindu) was being destroyed in the name of modernism, development, and
“mainstream” nationalism, and wrote: “It
will not be an exaggeration to say that the day on which the last of the
Andamanese tribals breathes his last breath will be one of the blackest days in
our modern human history, in more ways than one. Indian culture will be very
much the poorer by one of its three native races and by one of its six native
language families, apart from the different other aspects, most of them
probably unrecorded, of Andamanese culture” (TALAGERI 2005:290).
Does all this show that I represent
the ideological agenda that “Only ‘Aryan’,
i.e. Hindu, culture is Real Indian culture”? Obviously, my clear
“ideological” stance is that everything indigenous and native to India is
Indian; and that it is as Indian as Vedic or Sanskrit culture.
Further, while I have made it very
clear in my three extraneous chapters in 1993a, in response to the Secularist
and Leftist practice of branding everything Hindu as “communal” and everything
Christian and Muslim as “secular”, that Hinduism is Indian and Christianity and
Islam are foreign (not, as
Hock libelously lies, that Hindus are Indian and non-Hindu Christians and
Muslims are foreign), note what I have written in this more detailed 2005
article on Indian culture: “Now, most
Muslims in India belong to communities that converted centuries ago. The same
is the case with Christian communities in certain, particularly coastal areas.
Their culture (de-Indianized or otherwise) is, therefore, in many ways, an
intrinsic part of our modern Indian ethos, and these communities are an
intrinsic part of Indian society” (TALAGERI 2005:274-5). Further on, I
added, even more specifically: “I will
go further here. In my 1993 book, The Aryan Invasion Theory and Indian
nationalism, p.33, I have, rightly in that context, criticized the secularist
media for the ‘calculated glorification of Urdu, of Lucknowi tehzib, of the
Moghuls, of gazals and qawwalis, etc.’ But the truth is that all this is also a
part, and a rich part, of our modern Indian ethos” (TALAGERI 2005:293).
I could give many more quotations
from my writings, including the three extraneous chapters in 1993a, which make
it clear that I have nowhere written anything which could be interpreted
even as “Only “Aryan” religion/culture,
i.e. Hindu religion/culture, is Real Indian religion/culture”, let alone as
the “only 'Aryans', i.e. Hindus, are real
Indians” that Hock libelously propagates, and no-one will be able to
produce a single quotation from my writings to defend Hock’s lies.
But the important question here is:
why is this “mild-mannered professor”
lying through his teeth with missionary zeal to propagate the idea that my
entire case presented in three volumes, full of detailed, complete and
authentic data never before collected and presented so systematically and
conclusively [yes, I know I am saying this about my own books, but I dare to
say it because it is true], adds up only to the ideological agenda that “only 'Aryans', i.e. Hindus, are real Indians”?
What
is my Case?
My three books present a complete
case for an Indo-European Homeland in India theory which simply can not be challenged:
1A. In my third book, I analyze, with complete
data from the Rigveda, the Avesta and the Mitanni “Aryan” records, the
comparative chronological position of the three texts (taking the Mitanni data
as representing a text), and show that (a) the Mitanni and Avestan cultures constitute
a common culture with the culture of the Late or New books of the Rigveda
(books 1,5, 8-10), which continues on into later Vedic and post-Vedic Indian
texts, while (b) the culture of the Early or Old books of the Rigveda (books
2-4, 6-7) represents a different and considerably older and more archaic
culture ancestral to all the three streams (Late Rigvedic, Avestan, Mitanni).
[I also show that the division of the books of the Rigveda into Early or Old
books 2-4, 6-7, and Late or New books 1,5, 8-10, is not only proved on the
basis of umpteen criteria cited by me in detail, but is also the official
division of the books by a consensus among Western academic scholars].
1B. I further show, by a detailed
analysis of the complete geographical data in the Rigveda, including historical
descriptions in the text of the expanding horizon of the Vedic Aryans, that the
areas to the west of the Indus become familiar territory to the Vedic Aryans
only in the period of the Late or New books, while the geography of the Early
or Old Books shows the Vedic Aryans as old inhabitants of the areas to the east
of the Sarasvati (Ghaggar-Hakra) only just expanding westwards into the Land of
the Five Rivers. This shows that the common culture (Late Rigvedic, Avestan, Mitanni)
developed in the Land of the Five Rivers out of an earlier culture which had expanded into the Land of the Five Rivers
from areas to the east of of the Sarasvati
(Ghaggar-Hakra) from the interior of India. Therefore,
the ancestors of the composers of the Avesta (in Afghanistan), and of the Mitanni kings
(in Iraq,
Syria
and Egypt),
were emigrants from the Land of the five Rivers.
1C. While the Rigveda and the Avesta
can not be materially dated, the dated Mitanni data from Syria and Iraq goes back
beyond 1500 BCE, and the related Kassite evidence goes back beyond 1700 BCE, already as the dead residual culture of
remote ancestors. This automatically places the entry of these remote
ancestors into West Asia at least a few
centuries prior to 1700 BCE, and their departure from the Land of the Five
Rivers a few centuries even before that. Even at minimum estates, the ancestors
of the Mitanni
left the Land of the Five Rivers well in the second half of the third
millennium BCE. This places the beginnings of the common culture (Late
Rigvedic, Avestan, Mitanni)
in the Land of the Five Rivers at least
at 2500 BCE. The considerably older and more archaic culture of the Vedic
Aryans of the Early or Old Books (2-4, 6-7) of the Rigveda, who originally
expanded into the land of the Five Rivers from the east of the Sarasvati
(Ghaggar-Hakra), therefore must go back, again at minimum estimates, well beyond 3000 BCE.
1D. The Vedic Aryans of the Early or
Old books of the Rigveda (books 2-4, 6-7) can therefore be securely dated
minimally well beyond 3000 BCE. In
that period, these Vedic Aryans, on the basis of the data in these books,
are settled inhabitants of the areas to the east of the Sarasvati
(Ghaggar-Hakra), in present-day Haryana, Western U.P., and adjoining areas, in
an area which then, as now, is purely Indo-European (“Aryan”) in a linguistic
sense: the texts do not know a single person, friend or enemy, in the area,
speaking Dravidian, Austric, or any other non-Indo-European language; the names
of the people, rivers, animals and trees, of the area are all purely “Aryan”; and
they are yet totally unfamiliar with areas to the west of the Indus, and only
just expanding into the Land of the Five Rivers from the east.
1E. As per all the linguistic
evidence and consensus among the western academic scholars, the various
branches of the Indo-European language family were still together in a chain of
contact in the Original Homeland in 3500 BCE, and started separating
from each other only after that as different branches expanded away from the
homeland. The above minimal secure date well
beyond 3000 BCE for the Vedic Aryans of the Old Books of the Rigveda,
therefore, proves beyond doubt that the epicenter of the expansions of the
Indo-Europeans was from the Land of the Five Rivers and its peripheral areas to
the west, i.e. the Harappan civilization of the period was the epicenter of the
Indo-European expansions, and India was the Original Indo-European homeland.
2. If the Vedic Aryans were
originally inhabitants of a certain area (Haryana, western U.P., and
surrounding areas), and the data in the Rigveda shows them expanding westwards
into the Land of the Five Rivers in a certain period, who were the people
living to their west and east? If the joint Indo-Europeans were together in
their Homeland around 3500 BCE, in a historical period when other civilizations
(Mesopotamia, Egypt, China) were leaving their archaeological and historical
imprints, why is it that the Indo-Europeans, whose every branch in every part
of Asia and Europe left us imprints of great historic civilizations in later
times, were so mysteriously faceless and anonymous in their Original Homeland
and left no archaeological or historical imprints at all? The answer is: they have left us full fledged imprints. I
have shown in my books, again beyond challenge, that the Vedic Aryans were the
Purus of our Puranic traditions; the Anus to their west, and the Druhyus
further west, were the ancestors of the Indo-European branches which emigrated
from India; the Yadus, Turvasus and others to the east of the Purus in northern
India were the ancestors of other Inner Indo-European groups which became
largely Sanskritized in later times, and of course, the non-Indo-European speakers
of Dravidian and Austric languages were the inhabitants of southern and eastern
India. The Rigveda describes the great Dasarajna war between the expanding Purus and the Anu tribes of the land of the Five Rivers.
The Anu tribes named are the ancestors of the “Southern” Indo-European branches
of later times: Iranian (Parsava, Parthava, Paktha, Bhalana, etc.),
Armenian/Phrygian (Bhrgu), Greek/Hellene (Alina) and Albanian/Sirmio (Simyu),
who started expanding westwards after the war. The Puranas describe earlier
emigrations of the Druhyus from Afghanistan
northwards: the expansions of the “Northern” Indo-European branches of later
times (Anatolian, Tocharian, Italic, Celtic, Germanic, Baltic, Slavic), whose
priests were the Drui (Druids). The Harappan civilization is the Indo-Iranian
civilization of the joint Purus and Anus.
3. Any Indo-European Homeland theory
has to fulfill all the linguistic requirements and explain all the problematic
linguistic phenomena which are peculiar to the interconnections between
different branches. The fact is that the consensus candidate, South
Russia, fails to do this; but, for the want of a better
alternative (other candidates like Anatolia
are even less tenable), it has been firmly upheld by the scholars, and all
unexplainable factors and anomalies have been swept under the carpet. However,
in my second book, and more completely in my third book, I have shown how the
Indian Homeland theory explains every
single valid linguistic factor and phenomenon, and nothing has to be swept
under the carpet. I have presented a complete linguistic case which moreover
fits in with the textual evidence of two waves of migrations of the “Southern”
and “Northern” branches.
In the face of all the massive and
complete data, analysis and conclusions presented in my books regarding all
this, isn’t it rather strange that Hock refers to my three books as the major
representatives of one particular point of view on the Indo-European question, but
completely ignores everything written
by me in connection with all the above data, and treats the three extraneous
chapters in one version of my first book (1993a) as representing the sum total
of the case presented by me, and further completely
falsifies the content of even those three extraneous chapters, ultimately
narrowing down my whole case to an imaginary and even meaningless “ideological agenda”: “'Only Aryans', i.e. Hindus, are real Indians; e.g.
Talageri 1993ab, 2008”?
What is Hock’s purpose behind this
brazen and cowardly falsehood? Is this in any way any kind of honest
scholarship? Is it motivated by some kind of “ideologically motivated agenda”? Now I can not imagine what this
agenda could be. I can not assume leftist, or missionary-inspired, or
anti-Hindu motives, with the same glibness with which Hock encapsulates my
entire case in one insolent and false sentence. The truth seems to be that the
most important “agenda” in western academic circles today is Self Preservation.
A scholar is confronted with a new
point of view, diametrically opposite to the view he himself has been holding
and disseminating over the decades. What can he do? (a) He can either
completely ignore the new viewpoint and act as if he does not know it even
exists; (b) he can examine the data, analysis and conclusions presented in the
opposite viewpoint, and either accept it if it is right and admit that he
himself stands corrected, or else point out all the data-errors and flawed
logic in the opposite viewpoint and show where it fails; or (c) he can play a
game of “scholarly” tactics to obfuscate the issues.
Hock clearly belongs to the third
category. A well-entrenched, reputed and respected professor, with the whole
weight behind him of his University and a whole body of similarly entrenched
scholars who have been writing on the same lines, and “buttressed by the weight of two centuries of scholarship” (as
Erdosy put it in another context), can do quite a lot by way of political
activity; and Hock seems to have decided to do quite a lot. In the last few
years, Hock has launched an all-out disinformation campaign against the
Out-of-India theory, with University talks, articles, and video-talks on
internet media like Youtube.
Hock’s
Blatant Hypocrisy
Initially, before he realized the
formidable nature of the Out-of-India theory (as presented in my books) that he
was up against, Hock’s “mild-mannered
professor” act – the role of an unbiased, reasonable and honest scholar
willing to objectively examine the Out-of-India case, to make a friendly and
avuncular assessment of what the Out-of-India exponents were trying to say, and
to concede minor valid points while showing how the Out-of-India case failed to
pass logical and intellectual muster even after these concessions were made –
was in full force.
In an article “Historical Interpretation of the Vedic Texts”, in 2005 (in a volume,
which, incidentally, also carried an article by myself entitled: “The Textual Evidence: the Rigveda as a
Source of Indo-European History”, p.332-340, written and sent to the
editors at least six years earlier), Hock (who also may have submitted his
article similarly early, since his bibliography mentions my first book of 1993,
but not my second book published in 2000) portrayed his neutrality:
- His introduction (HOCK 2005:282-3) to the article presents a very reasonable stand: he points out that there can be “two very different approaches to the study of the Vedic tradition, or of any tradition”: one approach is that of “somebody who already knows the truth [….] and is therefore able to characterize all those who do not agree as being blind to that truth”, and the other is that of “scholars who consider truth to be their ultimate goal, but realize that truth is always conditional, to be superseded by better evidence or interpretation of evidence”. Hock points out that “the problem with the first view as applied to scholarship is that its goal is to forestall all dissenting voices and that it therefore does not invite meaningful debate”, and proceeds to give a very broad and reasonable description of how open and honest such a debate should be.
- He even-handedly takes up three Aryan Invasion interpretations and three Indian Origin interpretations from the Vedic texts, and cautions us at the very outset (HOCK 2005:283) that “the passages in question and their interpretation do not provide cogent support for the hypotheses they are supposed to support”, while reasonably conceding that “this does not mean that either of the two theories is therefore invalidated. It merely means that the evidence in question is not sufficiently cogent to provide support for the respective hypothesis and therefore must be considered irrelevant. First of all, neither hypothesis rests solely on the evidence here examined; and it is in principle perfectly possible that other evidence can show one hypothesis to be superior to the other”. He even reasonably concedes the possibility that “any new evidence or better interpretation would, in true scientific spirit, be able to overturn the so far victorious hypothesis”, or that “in principle none of the currently available evidence stands up under scrutiny and that nevertheless, one or the other hypothesis was historically correct, except that the evidence in its favor has not been preserved for us”. [The Aryan Invasion arguments he debunks (HOCK 2005:283-292) are “Dialectal variation due to Dravidian influence”, “Racial differences between āryas and dāsas/dasyus” and “Textual evidence for Aryan in-migration”, and two of the Indian Origin arguments he debunks (HOCK 2005:295-303) are Astronomical evidence in the Kauşītakī Brāhmaņa for dating the Vedas?” and “Rig-Vedic astronomical evidence for dating the Vedas?” As I also place little or no credence on the “astronomical” arguments derived from Vedic texts, I find his arguments in all these respects perfectly reasonable. The third Indian Origin argument he claims to debunk is supposed to be an argument made by me in my first book. I will deal with this in the next section of this article].
- And in his conclusion to the article, he writes: ”Personally, I feel that most of the evidence and arguments that have been offered in favor either of the Aryan In-Migration hypothesis or of the Out-of-India are inconclusive at closer examination” (HOCK 2005:303).
When it comes to “analyzing” silly,
isolated arguments, and picking the silliest of them to “rebut” with detailed
logical explanations, Hock shows a very great propensity to debate the issues
at length to arrive at the “truth”. Note the number and variety of ways in
which he advocates an unbiased and open approach based on free discussions, in
the introduction to the one above article itself:
He emphasizes an approach where
truth is the “ultimate goal”, but “truth is always conditional, to be
superseded by better evidence or interpretation of evidence” (HOCK 2005:282).
The aim should be not to “forestall all dissenting voices”, but (a) to “invite meaningful debate”; (b) “to invite the scholarly challenges and ensuing debate that can lead to better insights and closer approximation of the
truth”; (c) “to go beyond what can
be grasped at first contact, and as a consequence of having to defend perceptions
against competing views, to investigate matters more thoroughly”; (d) to “approximate truth more closely”; (d)
to “go beyond initial impressions and
beyond the validation of preconceived interpretations”; (e) to “embrace the scientific approach of being transparent and vulnerable – transparent by being open to verification in terms of
providing supporting evidence and discussing potentially conflicting evidence,
and vulnerable by being open to challenge and potential falsification“; (f)
“to evaluate the very different
perspectives that are current and thus to reach beyond the differences in
perspective, ideology or bias” (HOCK 2005:282-3).
He also expresses his opinion about
the Vedas that “whatever their original
and/or secondary purposes may have been, they were not intended as data bases
for latter-day historians”, and suggests that “whatever historical evidence they contain, therefore, can only be
gleaned by a careful, philologically well-grounded reading of the lines – and
between the lines – of the texts” (HOCK 2005:303). He emphasizes the need for “other” and “better” evidence (than astronomical references in the Rigveda) “to establish a date for the Rigveda” (HOCK
2005:303) and (than isolated words in the Avesta) to determine “historical movements in the Indo-Iranian
linguistic territory” (HOCK 2005:295).
Best of all is his classic ending,
declaring his honesty and openness: “Throughout
I have endeavored to live up to the desiderata outlined at the beginning,
namely being transparent and vulnerable – transparent by providing
supporting evidence that is easily available to verification, and vulnerable by
being open to challenge and potential falsification. As I stated at the outset,
this, I believe, is the only way that we can establish a common ground for
those working in Vedic studies. Without this common ground there is nothing to
evaluate the many conflicting theories without either questioning each others’
motives, or saying ‘Trust me, trust me’. As I tell my students: If people
merely say ‘Trust me, trust me’, don’t trust them, don’t trust them. And as to
questioning each others’ motives, it is good to note that people as different
in their motives as Elst and Zydenbos have stated on the Indology List that
what really counts is the evidence and its interpretation – even racists and
communalists can come to correct results if their evidence and their
methodology are correct (however much we may deplore their ideologies and
biases)” (HOCK 2005:303-4).
But now, presented not with silly,
isolated and faulty “arguments” which can be laughingly rebutted, but with a
full-fledged, coherent and well-knit case, covering all the textual, linguistic
and archaeological points, and bursting with detailed data, evidence and
analyses from the Rigvedic (as well as the Avestan and Mitanni) data bases, and
conclusively establishing “a date for
the Rigveda” as well as “historical
movements in the Indo-Iranian linguistic territory”, he completely
refuses to even pretend to look at
the extremely detailed data, evidence and analyses, turns his back on all his
earlier tall claims advocating openness, honest debate, and “truth” as the
ultimate goal, and runs off from any debate on the pretext that my entire case only
consists of the proposition that “Only
'Aryans', i.e. Hindus, are real Indians; e.g.
Talageri 1993ab, 2008”. Thus he completely abandons honest debate
for the policies of political name-calling and label-sticking, and falls back
on “Trust me, trust me” as his only
resort.
Further, now he openly advocates the
policy of disinformation, concealment and suppression: “Indo-Europeanists
must exercise caution, lest they unwittingly support ideologically motivated
agendas”!
Hock’s
“Scholarly” Tactics of Disinformation
The above, with a few concluding
remarks, should have been the logical ending of this article. But, to
illustrate Hock’s propensity to concentrate only on giving “intelligent”
dissections of silly, isolated arguments, or his propensity to make such
arguments himself (even as he resorts to “spit and run” tactics and runs off in
the opposite direction when it comes to examining serious and unassailable case
presentations), let us end with examining some of Hock’s tactics of
disinformation.
I give four minor examples from within
the same above article “Historical
Interpretation of the Vedic Texts” (2005):
1. Even as he debunks the Aryan
Invasion argument that the Rigveda offers evidence of racial differences
between aryas and dasas/dasyus, he makes the following comment: “The archaeological evidence at this point does not support an
in-migration of a different racial group in the entire second millennium BC;
but then it also fails to furnish evidence for the well-established later
in-migrations of Sakas, Hunas, and many other groups. So this evidence, too,
fails to yield reliable results” (HOCK 2005:290).
Thus, Hock here subtly discounts the
Anti-Invasion argument (made, it may be noted, by eminent archaeologists in the
field, and not initially by “Hindu nationalists”) that archaeology totally
repudiates the idea of an Aryan invasion in the second millennium BCE. But note
the totally incongruous and untenable analogy that he presents:
“Sakas, Hunas and many other groups” were small groups of people who
entered India,
and left the imprint of their in-migrations (which are “well-established” in historical memory, in Hock’s own words). And they
got submerged into the indigenous population, completely losing their original
language, culture and identity.
The “Aryans”, on the other hand, whether in small or big groups, have
left no imprint of their alleged in-migrations at all: neither in archaeology,
nor in their own earliest and most detailed texts, nor in the memories or
traditions of the indigenous populations. Their alleged in-migration only
surfaced when European colonial scholars in the last few centuries discovered
the relationship between their own languages and those of northern India, and
theoretically postulated such an in-migration as the explanation for this
relationship. And these “Aryans” are
alleged to have swamped the whole of northern India, completely replacing the
indigenous languages with their own (leaving not a trace of even the very
existence of those original languages). And not only languages: “complete
systems of belief, mythology and language [….] not only new languages but also of an entire complex of material and
spiritual culture, ranging from chariotry and horsemanship to Indo-Iranian
poetry whose complicated conventions are still actively used in the Ṛgveda. The
old Indo-Iranian religion, centred on the opposition of Devas and Asuras, was
also adopted, along with Indo-European systems of ancestor worship.” (WITZEL
1995:112). And, moreover, their alleged impact was so absolute that even the
rivers of northern India have purely “Aryan” names even in the oldest texts,
with no traces or memories of earlier “non-Aryan” names, a situation
unparalleled in world history!
Surely, unlike the “established” in-migrations of “many other groups”, this purely theoretical
in-migration should have left unmistakable imprints in the archaeological
records; and Hock’s analogy is purely guided by a motivated agenda.
In an earlier article in 1996
published in 1999, Hock had made the same above silly analogy with even more untenable
additions: “Interestingly, skeletal continuity seems also to hold for
later, historical periods ─ even
though we know for certain that there were numerous migrations or invasions
into South Asia, by groups as diverse as the Greeks, the Central Asian Huns,
the Iranian Sakas, and Muslims from Iran, Central Asia, and even the Arab world”
(HOCK 1999b:161). The Muslims were also small in number, but, unlike the Vedic
Aryans, they were armed with a militant proselytizing ideology which compelled them to Islamize local
populations, in spite of which the local populations managed to retain their
original religion on a major scale. And in all
these instances, detailed records and memories, and other factors like the
original “Aryan” hydronomy and languages, have remained as witnesses to the
pre-Islamic past, unlike in the case of the alleged Indo-Aryan “migrations or invasions”.
2. Again, even as he debunks the
Aryan Invasion argument that there is textual evidence in the Rigveda for
in-migration, Hock makes another similar point. Referring to “the claim of opponents of the so-called
‘Aryan Invasion Theory’ (e.g. Rajaram and Frawley 1997:233) that there is no
indigenous tradition of an outside origin”, Hock comments: “but note that with the claimed exception of
Avestan for which see section 8.5, and the fanciful self-derivation of the Romans
from Troy, none of the ancient Indo-European traditions are aware of an origin
outside their settlement areas either” (HOCK 1995:291-2).
Again, the analogy is obviously untenable.
Unlike the other ancient Indo-Europeans outside India, who are already well
entrenched in their territories long enough to have no memories or traditions
of outside origins, and indeed have left us no records of what their earliest
memories and traditions were anyway,
the Rigveda is supposed to have been composed by a people (a) so close to the
original “Proto-Indo-European” culture that “in its original language we see the roots and shoots of the languages
of Greek and Latin, of Kelt, Teuton and Slavonian, so the deities, the myths,
and the religious beliefs and practices of the Veda throw a flood of light upon
the religions of all European countries before the introduction of Christianity”
(Griffith), its religion being so close to the primitive Indo-European roots
that the Vedic gods “are nearer to the
physical phenomena which they represent, than the gods of any other
Indo-European mythology” (Macdonell), (b) so passionately devoted to
tradition that every single aspect of their tradition was meticulously kept
alive in detailed texts in oral form for thousands of years without changing
even a word or a syllable, and (c) so new to the area that they were still
totally unacquainted with any part of India east or south of the westernmost
Ganga, and even allegedly with the tiger so often depicted on Harappan seals.
Surely, in the above circumstances,
total absence of extra-territorial traditions in the Rigveda is indeed a strong
argument against the “Aryan Invasion Theory”, and Hock’s analogy is silly and
untenable.
3. In the above article “Historical Interpretation of the Vedic
Texts” (2005), as already mentioned, Hock cites and debunks six arguments
(three from the Aryan Invasion side, and three from the Indian Origin side),
and as already mentioned, the arguments being basically silly ones, he does so
quite effectively in respect of the three “Aryan Invasion“ arguments and two of
the three Indian Origin arguments. The sixth Indian Origin argument he debunks
is supposed to have been made by me in my first book (1993), and it being a
silly one, he debunks it equally easily. The only problem is: I did not make such an argument at all in my
1993 book, or anywhere else!
In my 1993 book, I had only examined
all the “Aryan Invasion” arguments, and had only prepared the basic framework
of my Out-of-India theory; I had not yet provided the formidable evidence I
presented in my second book (2000) and incontrovertibly proved in my third book
(2008). Therefore, the Avestan/Iranian evidence in my first book consisted
mainly of preliminary arguments.
Hock quotes the two following
excerpts from my book, the first of which is from P.L.Bhargava quoted by me,
and the second being my own words: (a) ”The
first chapter of the Vendidad or the handbook of the Parsees enumerates sixteen
holy lands created by Ahura Mazda which were later rendered unfit for the
residence of man (i.e. the ancestors of the Iranians) on account of different
things created by Angra Mainyu, the evil spirit of the Avesta…The first of
these lands was of course Airyana Vaejo
which was abandoned by the ancestors of the Iranians because of severe winter
and snow; of the others, one was Hapta
Hindu, i.e. Saptasindhu”.
(Bhargava quoted in TALAGERI 1993a:180). (b) “The Hapta Hindu mentioned in the Vendidad is obviously the Saptasindhu
(the Punjab region), and the first land,
‘abandoned by the ancestors of the Iranians because of severe winter and snow’
before they came to the Saptasindhu region and settled down among the Vedic
people, is obviously Kashmir” (TALAGERI 1993a:180-1).
I make three points here: (a) the
Avesta (Vendidad) names Airyana Vaejo and Hapta Hindu as two ancestral Iranian
lands; (b) Hapta Hindu= Saptasindhu= the Punjab
region; and (c) The first land Airyana Vaejo= Kashmir.
The first two points are
incontrovertible. The third one could have been contested by Hock, and indeed,
he does identify Airyana Vaejo with Khwarezmia (but he is wrong: see my second
book, 2000:189-194).
But Hock, surprisingly, introduces
an element not found in my book at all: he claims that Hapta Hindu, found 15th
in the list of 16 ancestral Iranian lands, is assumed by Bhargava and me to be
2nd in the list, and that on that basis we advocate “the sequencing of regions as indicating
migration” (HOCK 2005:295). He calls this “the approach advocated by Bhargava, Talageri, Rajaram and Frawley, and
Elst” (HOCK 2005:295), and even “the
Bhargava-Talageri hypothesis” (HOCK 2005:293), and spends four pages
debunking this idea that the sequence of regions in the Vendidad list indicates
the route of migration, and showing that, if it does, it in fact supports the In-Migration
theory rather than the Out-of-India theory!
But nowhere has anyone claimed that
the Avestan list indicates the sequence route of migration or that Hapta Hindu
is 2nd on the list! Bhargava, see above, writes “of the others, one was Hapta Hindu”,
and I add nothing to that assertion, obviously, since both of us know that
Hapta Hindu is 15th on the list, and that the list does not indicate
the sequential order of migration. Yet, Hock claims to have debunked my (“Bhargava-Talageri”) hypothesis!
4. A peculiar feature of this above
discussion of the Avesta (HOCK 2005:294-295) is the two maps of India featuring
alongside. For some totally mysterious and unknown reason, Hock’s maps show the
Indus river flowing, not from Kashmir into Pakistan and
out into the ocean through Sindh, but considerably farther to the east: the Indus in his maps flows through the Indian Punjab and Haryana,
Rajasthan and Kutch, and out into the ocean
through Gujarat. Almost exactly the route of
the Sarasvati (Ghaggar-Hakra), which river itself is missing on the maps! I am
in no position to solve this mystery, or to offer any motive or explanation for
it.
I have similarly shown some examples
of disinformation in Hock’s writings, in my third book (2008): (a) Hock’s
assertion that the Mitanni word satta
for Sanskrit sapta (seven) is due to
the influence of Hurrite šinti rather
than a Prakritic type development (2008:172-3), (b) Hock’s endorsement of
Witzel’s claim that there are two distinct Sarasvatis named in the Rigveda
(2008:115-121); (c) Hock’s similar endorsement of Witzel’s postulation of a
relay-race, passing the baton, kind of immigration process for the alleged
proto-Indo-Aryans from South Russia to India (2008:325-6, cf 2008:312-332). (d)
Most serious of all, Hock’s presentation of the Evidence of the Isoglosses as
the ultimate linguistic argument against the Indian Origin theory, with
deliberate omission of the Tocharian language and many important isoglosses
(which would have completely invalidated his argument) (2008:212-223). It was
this last, and my criticism of it in my book, which prompted Elst’s disapproval
of my seemingly harsh treatment of a “mild-mannered
professor”.
All
this could have been accepted (even the last, on Elst’s endorsement of Hock’s
essential fairness) as natural flaws in the argumentation of an unbiased
scholar rather than representations of a motivated agenda. This would seem to
be corroborated by Hock’s logical debunking of the three Aryan Invasion
arguments “Dialectal variation due to Dravidian influence”, “Racial
differences between āryas and dāsas/dasyus” and “Textual
evidence for Aryan in-migration” in his above article “Historical Interpretation of the Vedic Texts” (2005), and in his
repeated emphasis in the article on the importance of arriving at the truth
through unbiased debate on the facts and evidence and their interpretation.
Also, we have his much quoted conclusions that the Brahui in Baluchistan
are the remnants of a migration from the south within the last two millenniums,
and not the remnants of an original Dravidian speaking population in the
northwest. And most important of all, his admissions (in another article in 1996, published in 1999)
that “….the ‘Sanskrit-origin’ hypothesis
runs into insurmountable difficulties, due to the irreversible nature of
relevant linguistic changes [….but….]
the likelihood of the ‘PIE-in-India’ hypothesis cannot be assessed on the basis
of similar robust evidence” (HOCK 1999a:2), and that “The ‘PIE-in-India’ hypothesis is not as easily refuted as the
‘Sanskrit-origin’ hypothesis, since it is not based on ‘hard-core’ linguistic
evidence, such as sound changes, which can be subjected to critical and
definitive analysis. Its cogency can be assessed only in terms of
circumstantial arguments, especially arguments based on plausibility and simplicity”
(HOCK 1999a:12).
But
the significant point is that all these examples of an unbiased desire to
examine the facts and evidence in order to arrive at the truth, and to consider
the opposing arguments offered without laying emphasis on the real or assumed
motives behind those arguments, are from a different age. An age when opponents
of the Aryan Invasion theory only had quibbling arguments to offer against the
theory, and silly arguments to offer in support of an Indian Origin case. An
age when a “mild-mannered professor”
could condescendingly and patronizingly examine all these Indian Origin
arguments and refute them in detail, and kindly make a few innocuous
concessions to them in the process. An age when an established “scholar” could
wax eloquent and show his oratorical skills in promoting lofty philosophies of
unbiased debate and a quest for the truth, without facing either the heat of the debate or
the possibility of being proved wrong in all that he has been asserting to
date.
Now
Hock had a chance to practice what he preached: he could have examined in
detail (a) chapters 1, 2 and 5 of my third book (2008), which conclusively
prove that the Avesta, the proto-Mitanni and the Late or New books of the
Rigveda (1,5,8-10) represent a common culture which continues into post-Vedic
times, while the Early or New books of the Rigveda (2-4, 6-7) represent a far
older and more archaic culture; (b) chapter 3 of my third book (2008) which
conclusively prove that the geography of the Early or Old books of the Rigveda
is of a people inhabiting areas within India to the east of the Sarasvati
(Ghaggar-Hakra), who were only just starting to expand westwards into new and
unfamiliar areas to their west; and (c) chapter 4 of my third book (2008),
which conclusively proves that the proto-Mitanni emigrated from India in the
late third millennium BCE and that the Early or Old books of the Rigveda go
much farther back into time, that the Proto-Indo-European homeland was in
India, and that the Harappan culture was Indo-Iranian.
Hock
could have examined all this detailed data, evidence and interpretation without
bias, and sought to arrive at the truth either by accepting the Out-of-India
case or proving it wrong with ruthless logic.
But,
faced with a formidable Out-of-India case, and masses of unassailable data,
evidence and interpretations, and opponents who can not be patronized, Hock
comes out in his true colors: he totally refuses to even pretend to examine the
Out-of-India case, starts an all-out cyber and campus campaign against it,
resorts to a libelous and calumnious dismissal of the entire case as a
political case of “Only 'Aryans', i.e. Hindus, are real
Indians; e.g. Talageri 1993ab, 2008”, and urges all western and
academic scholars to censor and edit their conclusions “lest they
unwittingly support ideologically motivated agendas”.
Is this the same Hock who delivered that philosophical sermon
about “being transparent
and vulnerable”, about evaluating “the
many conflicting theories without either questioning each others’ motives, or
saying ‘Trust me, trust me’”, and about the need for “scholars who consider
truth to be their ultimate goal, but realize that truth is always conditional,
to be superseded by better evidence or interpretation of evidence”?
BIBLIOGRAPHY
HOCK 1999a: “Out of India? The
linguistic evidence”, p.1-18 in “Aryan
and non-Aryan in South Asia: evidence,
interpretation, and ideology” 1999. (Proceedings of the International
Seminar on Aryan and non-Aryan in South Asia, Univ. of Michigan, October 1996)
HOCK 1999b: “Through a glass darkly: Modern
“racial” interpretations vs. textual and general prehistoric evidence on ārya
and dāsa/dasyu in Vedic society. p145-174 in “Aryan and non-Aryan in South Asia:
evidence, interpretation, and ideology” 1999. (Proceedings of the
International Seminar on Aryan and non-Aryan in South Asia, Univ. of Michigan,
October 1996)
HOCK 2005: “Historical Interpretation of the Vedic Texts”, p.282-308 in “The Indo-Aryan Controversy: Evidence and
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