tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post4861460092092000745..comments2024-03-29T03:18:22.880-07:00Comments on Shrikant G Talageri: The Identity of the Enemies of Sudās in the Dāśarājña Battle in the RigvedaShrikant Talagerihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15700049337974422213noreply@blogger.comBlogger121125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-16874211603960102722022-11-12T00:19:15.147-08:002022-11-12T00:19:15.147-08:00I was quite excited by this writeup since I was lo...I was quite excited by this writeup since I was looking for evidence that rg veda must have defined interactions of the "Indians" with outsiders, which has been described here. What interests me is the fact we we are the only people perhaps in the world that have not gone about compulsorily killing who so ever we come across. How did this develop? The social constructs will be possible by some outside the box thinking and the Rg veda seems to be the right place to start. Also Buddhism did not provide the same level of protection against such murderous instincts historically. Though there were lots of wars in rg ved, the central question remains how we escaped from a tribal outlook that Harari describes in Sapiens. The West, nor extreme East, seems to have come out of that particular loop. We did, and how!<br />We must explore new questions and not lose time by arguing with the Western ideas, who have their own agenda.V.Sitaramamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18128751692377158248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-30593113034543181782022-02-15T07:28:30.376-08:002022-02-15T07:28:30.376-08:00It is extremely kind-hearted and generous of you t...It is extremely kind-hearted and generous of you to find my hypothesis "interesting" and "a good effort". But I am sorry it is something much more: it is indeed "the Truth", and if you are not able to find anything logically wrong in it, then it remains "the Truth", however much you may be pained by my "desperation" and "insulting" and "abusive" attitude in "pushing" my case. In scholarly debate, it is not heckle-and-troll personal comments of the kind that your comment is full of, which matter. Only facts, data and logic matter. And if you don't have them on your side, you are free to demonstrate your desperation by indulging in comments of this kind. You are only underlining the correctness of everything I am writing, and the fact that this is all you can say. So, a sincere thank you. Shrikant Talagerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15700049337974422213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-68314366130545784122022-02-15T06:07:59.900-08:002022-02-15T06:07:59.900-08:00It's an interesting hypothesis forwarded by Mr...It's an interesting hypothesis forwarded by Mr. Talageri. Unfortunately, this good effort is tarnished by his belief that readers should take this hypothesis as "the truth," and anyone doubting his version of truth is a wolf and an "objector of the heckle-and-troll variety." Such remarks display how desperate Mr. Talageri is in pushing his case forward. If this work is done in a scientific spirit, then without insulting the readers he should just leave it for them to decide whether the theory makes sense or not. A question of this import addressed by the blog cannot be decided by being abusive. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00251555996758542678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-1700832594058019732021-12-09T04:48:48.108-08:002021-12-09T04:48:48.108-08:00Dear Schoolofyoga.in, with all due respect, please...Dear Schoolofyoga.in, with all due respect, please stop making a fool out of yourself and your brand of yoga.OG Dravidanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07743054981585085131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-65457746350842896402021-12-08T23:26:11.765-08:002021-12-08T23:26:11.765-08:00You think they never realized the difference betwe...You think they never realized the difference between Dasha and Daasa?OG Dravidanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07743054981585085131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-1110914347981817682021-08-10T06:21:34.352-07:002021-08-10T06:21:34.352-07:00Imho, reason y there are more names of tribes in t...Imho, reason y there are more names of tribes in this war is because it's not a battle of ten kings/tribes. It's a battle of Dasa Kings. I.e. those who are dasa or devotees of divine. They probably used mantras as weapons too. Sonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06129253688791405036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-38195924352811717892020-10-24T14:37:05.948-07:002020-10-24T14:37:05.948-07:00What are your views on his ligth skin claim btw......What are your views on his ligth skin claim btw...does he hold some grounds or is completely wrong...Aryan Jaiswalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05798820281610140414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-19299330926976197702020-05-28T02:33:27.614-07:002020-05-28T02:33:27.614-07:00His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupa...His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada asserted many times that Aryan people went from India due to various factors and settled in Europe. So I think Srikanth Ji is doing the GREATEST SERVICE by proving the words his divine grace. So no earthly curse can do anything for performing a divine service, which is being done by Talageri Ji.<br />Not a single western linguistic have dared to touch the massive data sweeping(Mitanni, Avestan, Rg) data given by Talgeri Ji.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />RAMACHANDRAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14125248162947403974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-67407923491262140812020-05-28T02:22:12.242-07:002020-05-28T02:22:12.242-07:00Hello Sir,
I purpose you to turn your attention m...Hello Sir,<br /><br />I purpose you to turn your attention more on the Scythian language issue.<br /><br />There is a serious debate on whether the Scythian language is actually an Iranian language, or if it is an even an IE language.<br /><br />This site argues strongly that Scythia is definitely not an Iranian nor an IE language.<br /><br />http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/27_Scythians/ScythianWordListSourcesEn.htm<br /><br />"Can you declare a language that does not have any grammatical, phonetical, or morphological connection with any and all members of the Indo-European family to be an Indo-European language? Can you declare a language that has only a sprinкle of the occupier or Lingua Franca language to be that language?"<br /><br />(Quote from the below-given site)<br /><br />http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/27_Scythians/OssetianLanguageAbaev.htm<br /><br /><br /><br />Now, this is an important factor that all the linguistic must concentrate upon since it is well known that Scythians' main inhabitant area was Eurasia Steppes, which is claimed to be the supposed homeland of PIE.<br /><br />Now if the language of the Scythia is conclusively proved to be not an Iranian language nor an IE language, it might serve as a huge blow to the Steppe homeland theory/AIT.<br /><br />I also suspect because of this particular reason the western Linguistic community has branded the Scythian language as Iranian(IE) even in spite of lack of proper evidence.<br /><br />I suggest you go through the links given, the author of the link strongly argues it is not an IE, I have to tell after careful examination of his work, there is a huge deal of truth in his claim, so if it is proved it is a gigantic blow to the Steppe homeland theory.<br /><br />You were able to relate many Iranian tribes such as Paktoons, Persians, Phrygians, Medes, etc with Etymology<br /><br />Quoting from your article.<br /><br />"Iranian:<br /><br />Afghanistan (Avesta): Sairima (Śimyu), Dahi (Dāsa).<br /><br />NE Afghanistan: Nuristani/Piśācin (Viṣāṇin). <br /><br />Pakhtoonistan (NW Pakistan), South Afghanistan: Pakhtoon/Pashtu (Paktha).<br /><br />Baluchistan (SW Pakistan), SE Iran: Bolan/Baluchi (Bhalāna).<br /><br />NE Iran: Parthian/Parthava (Pṛthu/Pārthava).<br /><br />SW Iran: Parsua/Persian (Parśu/Parśava).<br /><br />NW Iran: Madai/Mede (Madra).<br /><br />Uzbekistan: Khiva/Khwarezmian (Śiva).<br /><br />W. Turkmenistan: Dahae (Dāsa).<br /><br />Ukraine, S. Russia: Alan (Alina), Sarmatian (Śimyu).<br /><br /><br /><br />Thraco-Phrygian/Armenian:<br /><br />Turkey: Phryge/Phrygian (Bhṛgu).<br /><br />Romania, Bulgaria: Dacian (Dāsa).<br /><br /><br /><br />Greek:<br /><br />Greece: Hellene (Alina).<br /><br /><br /><br />Albanian/Illyrian:<br /><br />Albania: Sirmio/Sirmium (Śimyu)."<br /><br />But it was not possible with Scythians, maybe because they are not IE nor did they speak IE dialect.<br /><br />RAMACHANDRAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14125248162947403974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-54824364084796837122020-04-29T05:59:34.038-07:002020-04-29T05:59:34.038-07:00I know very well which kings was called as Bharat....I know very well which kings was called as Bharat. Its the meaning of the word that I wants to know.<br />How metal(Copper) working is related to "Bharat"?arish108https://www.blogger.com/profile/13426868500839924438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-36301844008201452052020-04-29T01:34:19.595-07:002020-04-29T01:34:19.595-07:00Its named after the Puru king Bharat after he subj...Its named after the Puru king Bharat after he subjugated and conquered most of South Asia. He is the first Chakravartin. It is from is expensive empire that the Aryan culture has sprung up from and spread all across South Asia. Anyone who do not follow the Aryan way of life was called a Anaryan or Mleccha. Exact meaning of this word has more to do with a kind of metal compound, since this tribe was expert in mental (Copper) working hence their name. Raghavar Voltorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05388765194273606957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-85747355986333831732020-04-28T19:35:43.856-07:002020-04-28T19:35:43.856-07:00What is really troubling is the force fitting of t...What is really troubling is the force fitting of tribes in this article. <br /><br />For instance, Bhṛgu has been equated with Phrygians. Bhrgu is descended from Shukracharya (the Brahmin asura guru and brother of Deva Guru Brhaspati). Bhrgus were famous for archery and rearing horses. One of the famous descendants of Brghu was Parashurama. Today, these people belong to the Bhargava gotra and those with the surname of Bhargava are Brghus.schoolofyoga.inhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04197061626477639772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-90232524144793270572020-04-28T18:52:59.370-07:002020-04-28T18:52:59.370-07:00schoolofyoga.in@gmail.com. You could also check ou...schoolofyoga.in@gmail.com. You could also check out my site www.schoolofyoga.in. I come from one of India's oldest schools of Yoga. My research and interest in Ancient India is derived from the schism between Yoga and ancient Aryan methods of worship and the subsequent amalagamation of the two, with distinct fault lines, for example the drop in value of Indira from Rig to Yajus and the rise of Rudra in Yajus. ALso, you will notice, almost no synchronisation between Yoga and Rig.schoolofyoga.inhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04197061626477639772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-83944562745335053832020-04-28T13:46:23.376-07:002020-04-28T13:46:23.376-07:00Talageri ji can you tell me the meaning of this wo...Talageri ji can you tell me the meaning of this word "Bharat" after which this land has been named?arish108https://www.blogger.com/profile/13426868500839924438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-26926312629326223382020-04-28T13:43:37.144-07:002020-04-28T13:43:37.144-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.arish108https://www.blogger.com/profile/13426868500839924438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-20592222317808146102020-04-27T08:50:02.384-07:002020-04-27T08:50:02.384-07:00I think you missed by previous comment, would you ...I think you missed by previous comment, would you like to join the IHAR WhatsApp group? If so please give me your WhatsApp number we'll add you to the group. <br /><br />Now coming to my question, what didn't Srikant Talageri pay much attention to the Varsagira war? In fact I hardly find him talking about it. He mostly mentions the "The battle of the 10 kings"Raghavar Voltorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05388765194273606957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-35986961129361634002020-04-27T06:22:13.513-07:002020-04-27T06:22:13.513-07:00Apologies for all the typos. Apologies for all the typos. Mayuresh Madhav Kelkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418844256177729386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-29922587987698639232020-04-27T06:21:41.468-07:002020-04-27T06:21:41.468-07:00Here is the link to the Mehra podcast
https://www...Here is the link to the Mehra podcast<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxtCu-4Gcu4&feature=youtu.beMayuresh Madhav Kelkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418844256177729386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-33146196594443425852020-04-27T06:20:51.535-07:002020-04-27T06:20:51.535-07:00Raghavar:
"I you suggesting that we should s...Raghavar:<br /><br />"I you suggesting that we should start a war, a physical one at that."<br /><br />Not a good idea. Americans have been pushing India to get involved in Afghanistan. But the time is not ripe yet. A war against China is unthinkable. Mayuresh Madhav Kelkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418844256177729386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-91370980352068179232020-04-27T06:18:44.492-07:002020-04-27T06:18:44.492-07:00Check out this latest podcast from Kushal Mehara. ...Check out this latest podcast from Kushal Mehara. They discuss he overwhelming compulsion modern Indians and particularly Hindus have to see themselves as pacifistic. Sudas's wars to the east and west from the Sarasvati basin were definitely expansionist. Let us not forget the Mittanni IA in Turkey also. Then there was the Varsagira war between the Vedic and Iranian people. And then the Mahabharata war. These are the wars that sustain the OIT. Chola's expansion of Hinduism to East Asia was exactly done through vacation cruises liners. Mayuresh Madhav Kelkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18418844256177729386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-60693090437406049032020-04-27T05:27:40.508-07:002020-04-27T05:27:40.508-07:00I you suggesting that we should start a war, a phy...I you suggesting that we should start a war, a physical one at that. Raghavar Voltorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05388765194273606957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-35609930574867894972020-04-27T05:03:16.583-07:002020-04-27T05:03:16.583-07:00Thank you very much, but I have read it, and the I...Thank you very much, but I have read it, and the ISKCON temple is close to my house and I have been to it many times. But, if you have read the Gita, you will know that Krishna advised Arjuna to fight his battles, not just "bickering" in writing with trolls but actually killing with arrows his own relatives, before going "back home, back to Godhead". So thank you for your concern for me, my parents, my culture, language and history.<br />But, please don't hide behind anonymous pseudonyms like "Unknown" when giving advice. And please pray that I don't get "cursed".<br />And I don't think you have read the articles and comments, or you would not have said "Sudasa".Shrikant Talagerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15700049337974422213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-85396517536190226102020-04-27T04:25:54.795-07:002020-04-27T04:25:54.795-07:00Dear Sirs, I humbly request to read Bhagavad Gita ...Dear Sirs, I humbly request to read Bhagavad Gita As It Is by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Svami Prabhupada. <br />Why? Since 2009, I also was immersed in these subjects. AIT, History, unification of all "theories" and "versions of histories" by diverse peoples of diverse backgrounds (some from different countries and some from the same countries).<br />So now, after more then 10 years, I find a link to this blog about Sudasa and the Battle of 10 Kings. I have read the article and the comments and I am so thankful for Srila Prabhupada.<br /><br />If I offend, I beg for forgiveness. I just want to help. All these discussion about who is right, proves that no-one can explain everything. And when you try to give your understanding, then you will be cursed.<br /><br />So read Bhagavad Gita As It Is. At least the introduction. If you want to skip, checkout chapter 7, verse 16. Check it out seriously. Also know about Lord Krishna's (God) energies. When you do not want to follow Sattva Guna rules, you will be binded in Raja and Tama Gunas and you will get the intelligence to proceed as an animal in your limited lifespan as humanbeing. This while the goal of humanlife is to go back home, back to Godhead.<br /><br />What happens after you get old, sick and then die? What gain will you get by these kinds of bickering. And if you want to discuss, the do insult eachother. Because of this, the next generation of Indians will become more westernized and will not care about their parents, culture, language, history and become a third-world country. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144672750944729066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-83109096261716281172020-04-26T23:56:57.775-07:002020-04-26T23:56:57.775-07:00Dear Mayuresh Madhav Kelkar, would you be interest...Dear Mayuresh Madhav Kelkar, would you be interesting in joining the IHAR (Indian history awareness and research) WhatsApp group?Raghavar Voltorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05388765194273606957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7488245879483190185.post-4639469271899955412020-04-26T23:55:32.068-07:002020-04-26T23:55:32.068-07:00Dear Schoolofyoga.in:
You made some very interest...Dear Schoolofyoga.in:<br /><br />You made some very interesting points. How can I contact you sir/mam.Raghavar Voltorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05388765194273606957noreply@blogger.com