Israel,
Palestinians and India: Some Thoughts to Ponder
Shrikant G.
Talageri
It has become mandatory for all
countries and peoples of the world, and all leftist Hindus, to shed crocodile
tears over the “plight” of Palestinians. Eerily, increasing numbers of
non-leftist Hindus (including even Hindus who are avowedly “Hindutva”-minded)
also shed crocodile-tears for Palestinians and talk of the rights of Palestinians,
in line with the guidelines of woke-dictated political-“correctness”-dogma. And
the strange part of it is that these Hindus, without exhibiting even the
slightest blush of shame, quote the woke spokespersons of the west as
authorities on the Israel-Palestine issue – spokespersons who have never seen fit to comment
on the ethnic cleansing of Hindus in Kashmir, Pakistan or Bangladesh, but who
allege instead that Muslims are being targeted in India!
Hinduism is the native religion
of India, and Islam the religion which was brought in and spread by the sword
by invaders in circumstances (involving large scale massacres of millions of Hindus.
destruction of lakhs of Hindu temples, and transportation of millions of Hindus
to Islamic West Asia as slaves) recorded in pitiless detail by the Islamic
invaders themselves. In 1947, India was divided, ostensibly between Hindus and
Muslins, and Muslims were given an Islamic state (now broken up into two separate
militant Islamic states where Hindus, when allowed to live, face massive
discrimination and repression, and shrinking numbers) while Hindus were given a
Hindu+Muslim+Christian state where every law and official/legal procedure is
loaded against Hindus and favorable to the Muslim-Christian “minorities” (whose
numbers are continuously on the rise).
https://talageri.blogspot.com/2023/09/a-short-review-of-anand-ranganathans.html
https://talageri.blogspot.com/2023/04/dismantling-global-hindutva.html
https://talageri.blogspot.com/2023/09/is-indias-importance-in-world-on-rise.html
https://talageri.blogspot.com/2022/10/why-is-hindutvavadi-bjp-more.html
And yet, the leftists and their sepoy
echo-chambers (including many so-called “Hindutva-minded Hindus”) keep chanting
the “Palestinians are oppressed” chant in ever increasingly loud and strident
tones. The “Hindutva-minded Hindus” among them, of course, avoid stretching the
rhetoric to cover “Muslims are oppressed in India”, but otherwise their voices
chime in with those of the Breaking India Forces when it comes to Israel!
[The main psychology behind the
anti-Israel, or ostensibly Palestinian-sympathetic attitude of these above “Hindutva-minded
Hindus” is that age old one of scapegoats not liking to see other scapegoats getting
out of the rut, or refusing to wallow in the rut as Hindus are doing: i.e. they
resent the Israelis’ (or Zionist Jews’) refusal to submit passively to
victimhood while at the same time having their tormentors branded as victims, as
they (Hindus) themselves have always been doing.
There is a very misogynistic
saying in Kannada that if a newly married bride (in the evil old days of
shaven-headed widows) were to go to a widow for blessings, the (perhaps
unspoken) blessing would be “nanna hāgē āgu magaḷē”: “become just like me, my
child”. These particular "Hindutva-minded Hindus" would want the Zionist Jews of Israel to become just like
the self-destructive, defeatist, suicide-minded Hindus, and to head passively
and submissively towards their doom. That they refuse to do so, and strive to survive
against the “Breaking Israel Forces”, makes these Hindus seethe inwardly,
though most of them would refuse to recognize this].
The refrain of the world at the
moment is: Palestinians are oppressed in Israel and Muslims are oppressed
in India.
Let us examine some of the facts
in this case:
1. Do the figures of Muslim
refugees in (for example) Europe, show that Palestinians are oppressed in Israel
and Muslims are oppressed in India?
2. Do the population figures in
India and Israel show that Palestinians are oppressed in Israel and Muslims are
oppressed in India?
3. Who is oppressed and Where?
The questions below are mine,
and the answers are by Google AI overview:
I. Do the figures
of Muslim refugees in (for example) Europe, show that Palestinians are
oppressed in Israel and Muslims are oppressed in India?
“Muslim Refugees in Europe by
country of origin”:
Google AI overview: “Muslim refugees in Europe primarily come from
Syria and Afghanistan, with significant numbers also originating from Iraq,
Somalia, and various African countries like Egypt, Algeria, and
Morocco. While Syrians were the largest group of unaccompanied
minors seeking asylum in the EU in early 2024, other nationalities like
Afghans, Egyptians, and Somalis were also prominent. Recent data shows
that Germany hosts the largest number of refugees in Europe, with Syrians being
the largest refugee group there at the end of 2022”
“How many Muslim refugees in Europe
are from Israel?”
Google AI overview: “There are no available statistics for the
number of "Muslim refugees in Europe from Israel" specifically
because the term "refugee" typically refers to those fleeing
persecution or conflict in their country of origin, and the vast majority of
Muslim migrants from the Palestinian territories or other Arab nations have not
originated from Israel. However, there are millions of Palestinian
refugees, many of them Muslim, who have been displaced from their homes in the
areas of historic Palestine…. In summary, there are no distinct statistics for
"Muslim refugees from Israel" because the concept of
"refugee" does not apply to the population of Israel
itself. Instead, the relevant population would be the displacement and
diaspora of the Palestinian people, a significant portion of whom are Muslim
and have sought refuge in Europe and other countries.”
“How many Muslim refugees in
Europe are from India?”
Google AI overview: “Several
other countries, however, were the origin of more overall migrants to Europe.
India, for example, was the second-biggest source of migrants to Europe
(480,000) between mid-2010 and mid-2016; very few of these migrants came as
refugees, and only an estimated 15% were Muslims.”
“How many Muslim refugees in
Europe?”
Google AI
overview: “There are not readily
available precise, up-to-date figures for the total number of Muslim refugees
in Europe, as data on religious affiliation among asylum seekers and refugees
is complex and not consistently collected across countries. However, between
mid-2014 and mid-2016, an estimated 980,000 Muslim refugees arrived in Europe,
and by mid-2016, the Pew Research Center estimated that a total of 1.3 million Muslims had
received, or were expected to receive, refugee status in Europe”
This is from
1914-1916 alone, and does not include immigrants who were not
“refugees”.
II.
Do the population figures in India and Israel show that Palestinians are
oppressed in Israel and Muslims are oppressed in India?
“Percentage of Muslim citizens in
Israel”
Google AI
overview: “The
Muslim population in Israel constitutes approximately 18% of the
total population, numbering over 1.7 million people as of recent data from
2023-2024. Muslims are the largest religious minority in the country and
include a significant portion of the population of Arab origin, who are
citizens of Israel.”
[The
Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are not officially Israeli citizens like
the 1.7 million Palestinians within the rest of Israel who are Israeli citizens.
They are stateless. But unlike the millions of Muslims from Muslim
countries who are spreading all over the world as persecuted refugees fleeing
from oppression and persecution, neither the Palestinians citizens within
Israel nor those within Gaza and the West Bank seem inclined to flee from “oppression
and persecution”].
“Percentage of
Hindus in Bangladesh in various censuses from 1951”
Google AI
overview: “The
Hindu population percentage in Bangladesh has shown a continuous decline since
1951. According to census data, the percentage was 22.0% in 1951,
decreased to 18.5% in 1961, and further fell to 8.5% by the 2011
census. The overall trend shows a reduction from 22% in 1951 to
approximately 8.5-8.9% in recent years.”
Population of
Bangladesh: 17.36 crores
See the
following scene in Bangladesh:
https://x.com/HinduVoice_in/status/1965688287131304129
https://talageri.blogspot.com/2024/08/indian-citizenship-for-bangladeshi.html
“Percentage of Muslims
in India in various censuses from 1951”
Google AI
overview: “The
Muslim population in India has remained stable, increasing modestly from 9.8%
in 1951 to 14.2% in 2011, according to the Pew Research Center. This reflects a broader trend where the
share of Hindus in the population has slightly decreased while the share of
Muslims has increased over the same period.”
But note:
“increasing modestly”:
https://talageri.blogspot.com/2024/05/the-revolutionary-new-mathematics.html
III.
Who is oppressed and Where?
GenocideWatch
on “genocide” of Muslims in India and Israel:
https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/genocide-watch-expert-warns-of-genocide-of-muslims-in-india
https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/genocide-emergency-gaza-and-the-west-bank-2024
But on genocide
of Hindus in Bangladesh, GenocideWatch says
nothing about it, only talks about 1971 in religion-neutral terms:
https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/recognition-of-the-bangladesh-genocide-of-1971
And GenocideWatch
on Kashmir:
Google AI
overview: “Genocide
Watch first issued a "Genocide Alert" for Indian-administered Kashmir
in August 2019, following India's revocation of Article 370, which removed the
region's special autonomous status. In a December 2020 "Genocide
Warning" for India, the organization reiterated its concerns about the
situation in Kashmir and nationwide anti-Muslim violence.”
Note; Kashmiri
Hindus – the
over five lakhs who were forced to flee from Kashmir, never to be allowed to
return − never even ever existed and therefore cannot
possibly have ever been oppressed in any way, which is why they never figured
in any descriptions of the situation in Kashmir at any point of time in the
past or present or future, especially in the eyes of woke tools like GenocideWatch!!
And predictably,
what is the “Hindutva” Indian government’s attitude towards the “Palestinians”?
Indian BJP
government’s aid to Palestinians:
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/indian-aid-for-palestine-close-to-record-80m-in-last-11-years-govt/articleshow/124222832.cms#:~:text=India%20has%20continued%20to%20extend,the%20agency%20since%202020%2D21.
And “Indian aid
to Bangladesh Hindus”:
Google AI
overview: “India's "aid"
to Hindus in Bangladesh largely consists of diplomatic action and expressions
of concern to the Bangladeshi government over targeted violence, rather than
direct humanitarian assistance. India has a record of taking a
"serious note" of violence against Hindus and has reiterated its
concerns to the Bangladeshi government, especially during periods like
the 2024 anti-Hindu
violence and
attacks on temples during the 2024 Durga Puja
festival. While there's no specific program of aid for Bangladeshi
Hindus, India's approach is through bilateral diplomatic engagement and
monitoring the situation via its High Commission in Dhaka.”
Note: the word
“aid” is put in inverted commas by the Google AI overview itself!
Do all the above
facts and figures show that Palestinians are being oppressed in Israel and Muslims
in India? Certainly the Muslim citizens of Israel and India seem to have no
interest whatsoever in fleeing from Israel and India as refugees
to escape their “oppression”.
And even the BJP
and its so called “Hindutva” sepoys are not bothered about Hindus in Bangladesh.
In sum, let me
explain why I wrote this article.
It is not to
warn Hindus. Hindus are a people with a death-wish, and they will never
wake up. India will be a Muslim state (with a large Christian minority and a slightly
smaller Hindu one) within fifty years, or a century at the most. Thank God I will
not be there to see it!
It is to warn
Jews. Not the woke Jews or the Ultra-orthodox religious Jews, but the Jews who
really care about the future of Jews: Do not take Hindus as your model!
[Ambedkar
had tried to warn Hindus before 1947 and had urged the partition of India with
a peaceful exchange of populations so that the Hindu-Muslim conflict within
India would end forever. No-one listened to him: neither the Muslims, nor the
British, nor the Congress, nor the Leftists, nor the RSS and Hindu Mahasabha!]
https://talageri.blogspot.com/2021/10/karna-and-yudhisthira-in-mahabharata.html
If you want to
survive, or at least increase the probability of survival (in an increasingly
anti-Jewish world), don’t care two figs for who says what about you: remain
Jews and do not become suicide-prone imitation-Hindus. Do not depend on support
from “Hindutvite” politicians and their bhakts: they do not bother to support
Hindus, why will they bother to support Jews? You are on your own, so do not
strive for good-conduct certificates from your enemies who want to destroy you.
Do whatever you have to do to survive with a homeland “where the
(your) mind is without fear, and the head held high” (as Tagore put it).
