Israel,
Palestinians and India: Some Thoughts to Ponder
Shrikant G. Talageri
It has become mandatory for all countries and peoples of the world, and all leftist Hindus, to shed crocodile tears over the “plight” of Palestinians. Eerily, increasing numbers of non-leftist Hindus (including even Hindus who are avowedly “Hindutva”-minded) also shed crocodile-tears for Palestinians and talk of the rights of Palestinians, in line with the guidelines of woke-dictated political-“correctness”-dogma. And the strange part of it is that these Hindus, without exhibiting even the slightest blush of shame, quote the woke spokespersons of the west as authorities on the Israel-Palestine issue – spokespersons who have never seen fit to comment on the ethnic cleansing of Hindus in Kashmir, Pakistan or Bangladesh, but who allege instead that Muslims are being targeted in India!
Hinduism is the native religion of India, and Islam the religion which was brought in and spread by the sword by invaders in circumstances (involving large scale massacres of millions of Hindus. destruction of lakhs of Hindu temples, and transportation of millions of Hindus to Islamic West Asia as slaves) recorded in pitiless detail by the Islamic invaders themselves. In 1947, India was divided, ostensibly between Hindus and Muslins, and Muslims were given an Islamic state (now broken up into two separate militant Islamic states where Hindus, when allowed to live, face massive discrimination and repression, and shrinking numbers) while Hindus were given a Hindu+Muslim+Christian state where every law and official/legal procedure is loaded against Hindus and favorable to the Muslim-Christian “minorities” (whose numbers are continuously on the rise).
https://talageri.blogspot.com/2023/09/a-short-review-of-anand-ranganathans.html
https://talageri.blogspot.com/2023/04/dismantling-global-hindutva.html
https://talageri.blogspot.com/2023/09/is-indias-importance-in-world-on-rise.html
https://talageri.blogspot.com/2022/10/why-is-hindutvavadi-bjp-more.html
And yet, the leftists and their sepoy echo-chambers (including many so-called “Hindutva-minded Hindus”) keep chanting the “Palestinians are oppressed” chant in ever increasingly loud and strident tones. The “Hindutva-minded Hindus” among them, of course, avoid stretching the rhetoric to cover “Muslims are oppressed in India”, but otherwise their voices chime in with those of the Breaking India Forces when it comes to Israel!
[The main psychology behind the anti-Israel, or ostensibly Palestinian-sympathetic attitude of these above “Hindutva-minded Hindus” is that age old one of scapegoats not liking to see other scapegoats getting out of the rut, or refusing to wallow in the rut as Hindus are doing: i.e. they resent the Israelis’ (or Zionist Jews’) refusal to submit passively to victimhood while at the same time having their tormentors branded as victims, as they (Hindus) themselves have always been doing.
There is a very misogynistic saying in Kannada that if a newly married bride (in the evil old days of shaven-headed widows) were to go to a widow for blessings, the (perhaps unspoken) blessing would be “nanna hāgē āgu magaḷē”: “become just like me, my child”. Many Hindus would want the Zionist Jews of Israel to become just like the self-destructive, defeatist, suicide-minded Hindus, and to head passively and submissively to their doom. That they refuse to do so, and strive to survive against the “Breaking Israel Forces”, makes these Hindus seethe inwardly, though most of them would refuse to recognize this].
The refrain of the world at the moment is: Palestinians are oppressed in Israel and Muslims are oppressed in India.
Let us examine some of the facts in this case:
1. Do the figures of Muslim refugees in (for example) Europe, show that Palestinians are oppressed in Israel and Muslims are oppressed in India?
2. Do the population figures in India and Israel show that Palestinians are oppressed in Israel and Muslims are oppressed in India?
3. Who is oppressed and Where?
The questions below are mine, and the answers are by Google AI overview:
I. Do the figures
of Muslim refugees in (for example) Europe, show that Palestinians are
oppressed in Israel and Muslims are oppressed in India?
“Muslim Refugees in Europe by country of origin”:
Google AI overview: “Muslim refugees in Europe primarily come from Syria and Afghanistan, with significant numbers also originating from Iraq, Somalia, and various African countries like Egypt, Algeria, and Morocco. While Syrians were the largest group of unaccompanied minors seeking asylum in the EU in early 2024, other nationalities like Afghans, Egyptians, and Somalis were also prominent. Recent data shows that Germany hosts the largest number of refugees in Europe, with Syrians being the largest refugee group there at the end of 2022”
“How many Muslim refugees in Europe are from Israel?”
Google AI overview: “There are no available statistics for the number of "Muslim refugees in Europe from Israel" specifically because the term "refugee" typically refers to those fleeing persecution or conflict in their country of origin, and the vast majority of Muslim migrants from the Palestinian territories or other Arab nations have not originated from Israel. However, there are millions of Palestinian refugees, many of them Muslim, who have been displaced from their homes in the areas of historic Palestine…. In summary, there are no distinct statistics for "Muslim refugees from Israel" because the concept of "refugee" does not apply to the population of Israel itself. Instead, the relevant population would be the displacement and diaspora of the Palestinian people, a significant portion of whom are Muslim and have sought refuge in Europe and other countries.”
“How many Muslim refugees in Europe are from India?”
Google AI overview: “Several other countries, however, were the origin of more overall migrants to Europe. India, for example, was the second-biggest source of migrants to Europe (480,000) between mid-2010 and mid-2016; very few of these migrants came as refugees, and only an estimated 15% were Muslims.”
“How many Muslim refugees in Europe are from India?”
Google AI overview: “There are not readily available precise, up-to-date figures for the total number of Muslim refugees in Europe, as data on religious affiliation among asylum seekers and refugees is complex and not consistently collected across countries. However, between mid-2014 and mid-2016, an estimated 980,000 Muslim refugees arrived in Europe, and by mid-2016, the Pew Research Center estimated that a total of 1.3 million Muslims had received, or were expected to receive, refugee status in Europe”
This is from 1914-1916 alone, and does not include immigrants who were not “refugees”.
II.
Do the population figures in India and Israel show that Palestinians are
oppressed in Israel and Muslims are oppressed in India?
“Percentage of Muslim citizens in Israel”
Google AI overview: “The Muslim population in Israel constitutes approximately 18% of the total population, numbering over 1.7 million people as of recent data from 2023-2024. Muslims are the largest religious minority in the country and include a significant portion of the population of Arab origin, who are citizens of Israel.”
[The Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank are not officially Israeli citizens like the 1.7 million Palestinians within the rest of Israel who are Israeli citizens. They are stateless. But unlike the millions of Muslims from Muslim countries who are spreading all over the world as persecuted refugees fleeing from oppression and persecution, neither the Palestinians citizens within Israel nor those within Gaza and the West Bank seem inclined to flee from “oppression and persecution”].
“Percentage of Hindus in Bangladesh in various censuses from 1951”
Google AI overview: “The Hindu population percentage in Bangladesh has shown a continuous decline since 1951. According to census data, the percentage was 22.0% in 1951, decreased to 18.5% in 1961, and further fell to 8.5% by the 2011 census. The overall trend shows a reduction from 22% in 1951 to approximately 8.5-8.9% in recent years.”
Population of
Bangladesh: 17.36 crores
See the following scene in Bangladesh:
https://x.com/HinduVoice_in/status/1965688287131304129
https://talageri.blogspot.com/2024/08/indian-citizenship-for-bangladeshi.html
“Percentage of Muslims in India in various censuses from 1951”
Google AI
overview: “The
Muslim population in India has remained stable, increasing modestly from 9.8%
in 1951 to 14.2% in 2011, according to the Pew Research Center. This reflects a broader trend where the
share of Hindus in the population has slightly decreased while the share of
Muslims has increased over the same period.”
But note: “increasing modestly”:
https://talageri.blogspot.com/2024/05/the-revolutionary-new-mathematics.html
III.
Who is oppressed and Where?
GenocideWatch on “genocide” of Muslims in India and Israel:
https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/genocide-emergency-gaza-and-the-west-bank-2024
But on genocide of Hindus in Bangladesh, GenocideWatch says nothing about it, only talks about 1971 in religion-neutral terms:
https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/recognition-of-the-bangladesh-genocide-of-1971
And GenocideWatch on Kashmir:
Google AI overview: “Genocide Watch first issued a "Genocide Alert" for Indian-administered Kashmir in August 2019, following India's revocation of Article 370, which removed the region's special autonomous status. In a December 2020 "Genocide Warning" for India, the organization reiterated its concerns about the situation in Kashmir and nationwide anti-Muslim violence.”
Note; Kashmiri Hindus – the over five lakhs who were forced to flee from Kashmir, never to be allowed to return − never even ever existed and therefore cannot possibly have ever been oppressed in any way, which is why they never figured in any descriptions of the situation in Kashmir at any point of time in the past or present or future, especially in the eyes of woke tools like GenocideWatch!!
And predictably, what is the “Hindutva” Indian government’s attitude towards the “Palestinians”?
Indian BJP government’s aid to Palestinians:
And “Indian aid to Bangladesh Hindus”:
Google AI overview: “India's "aid" to Hindus in Bangladesh largely consists of diplomatic action and expressions of concern to the Bangladeshi government over targeted violence, rather than direct humanitarian assistance. India has a record of taking a "serious note" of violence against Hindus and has reiterated its concerns to the Bangladeshi government, especially during periods like the 2024 anti-Hindu violence and attacks on temples during the 2024 Durga Puja festival. While there's no specific program of aid for Bangladeshi Hindus, India's approach is through bilateral diplomatic engagement and monitoring the situation via its High Commission in Dhaka.”
Note: the word “aid” is put in inverted commas by the Google AI overview itself!
Do all the above facts and figures show that Palestinians are being oppressed in Israel and Muslims in India? Certainly the Muslim citizens of Israel and India seem to have no interest whatsoever in fleeing from Israel and India as refugees to escape their “oppression”.
And even the BJP and its so called “Hindutva” sepoys are not bothered about Hindus in Bangladesh.
In sum, let me explain why I wrote this article.
It is not to warn Hindus. Hindus are a people with a death-wish, and they will never wake up. India will be a Muslim state (with a large Christian minority and a slightly smaller Hindu one) within fifty years, or a century at the most. Thank God I will not be there to see it!
It is to warn Jews. Not the woke Jews or the Ultra-orthodox religious Jews, but the Jews who really care about the future of Jews: Do not take Hindus as your model!
[Ambedkar had tried to warn Hindus before 1947 and had urged the partition of India with a peaceful exchange of populations so that the Hindu-Muslim conflict within India would end forever. No-one listened to him: neither the Muslims, nor the British, nor the Congress, nor the Leftists, nor the RSS and Hindu Mahasabha!]
https://talageri.blogspot.com/2021/10/karna-and-yudhisthira-in-mahabharata.html
If you want to survive, or at least increase the probability of survival (in an increasingly anti-Jewish world), don’t care two figs for who says what about you: remain Jews and do not become suicide-prone imitation-Hindus. Do not depend on support from “Hindutvite” politicians and their bhakts: they do not bother to support Hindus, why will they bother to support Jews? You are on your own, so do not strive for good-conduct certificates from your enemies who want to destroy you. Do whatever you have to do to survive with a homeland “where the (your) mind is without fear, and the head held high” (as Tagore put it).
