The
“Scientist” Clown At It Again
Shrikant G. Talageri
I have written
articles on GROK and its persistent lies so often that I finally had to stop.
Likewise I have written so many times about the persistent lies of the Jijith-Koenraad
pair that I had to stop. But perhaps, a finishing touch was required to end
that second saga. This finishing touch has been provided today by Jijith (which
will no doubt be endorsed soon by Koenraad Elst), actually posted
today, 14 January 2026, on the traditionally sacred day of Makara
Sankranti as officially celebrated (regardless of whether astronomically today
is really Makara Sankranti or not, which is constantly being contested, rightly
or wrongly, by both of them) which incredibly demonstrates his stupidity and
incorrigible lying nature after being exposed so many times. Is there any such
thing as shame and self-respect among such “scientists” and their supporters?
This, apparently is the post this unstable person has posted today (thereby, I admit, also doubtless raising doubts, in the minds of those who are fed up of this issue, whether I am also slightly unstable that I am still taking note of his rantings and ravings. But this is really the absolutely last time I refer to this liar and pseudo-scholar):
https://x.com/Jijith_NR/status/2011226091973984614
“You
are at the tip of a major discovery! This is because the later edits in Puranas
portrayed their final destinations as if they lived forever on Ganga since
eternity!
This is how Shrikant Talageri got misled when he used the Puranic data to say Ikshvakus lived on the east from the very beginning.
In Puranas & late Itihāsas we Manu founded Ayodhya city, Divodāsa and Sudas lived in Kashi or Ila in Prayaga and Pururavas near her in Prstistana.
But in Rgveda all of them are correctly located along
Sarasvati!
Rgveda is the oldest text Puranas are edited in
Sunga-Gupta Periods. Between Rgveda and Itihāsa Purāṇas,Rgveda is correct. It
is the Sruti Pramana. It is the oldest text.
Archaeology also agrees.
Settlements on Sarasvati are the oldest. 8000-2000 BCE.
Settlements like Ayodhya, Prayaga and Kashi on Ganga are in contrast dated to 2000-1500 BCE”.
It is incredible that this lying pair is still trying to propagate that my historical analuysis is based on the Puranas while Jijith, "for the first time ever", has put up a "totally unrefuted" case based on the Rigveda!
No,
I am not going to bother to repeat the details about how or why this clown and
his supporters are so persistently lying about me and my analysis. His stupid
tweet exposes everything. His writings are enough to make all scientists hang their
heads in shame.
Namaskaram Talageri ji.
ReplyDeleteAn individual has done some reconstruction of how apparently the rigvedic hymns sounded when composed. It is quite different from the sakhas which we do pathanam of today ji. Looks very avestan like.
Can you please take a look 🙏
https://youtu.be/idqocks32U4?si=YLF_cmGKObmfaTR8
Well it is up to experts of Vedic chanting to say how right or wrong it is. But it could be that the toning was initially based on the udatta-anudatta-etc. tones alone and then bacame more elaborate and varied with the passage of time: As I said I am not an expert on Vedic chanting.
DeleteBut it does not look as if he has affected any changes in the actual words. So on exactly what basis does it look "Avestan like"? The vocabulary of the Avesta is contemporaneous (with the appropriate Avestan sound changes) with the vocabulary of the later parts of the New Rigveda.
When I mean avestan like what I ment to say that vowels which are monothongs are being pronounced like diphthongs. For example, ojas becomes aujas, deva becomes daiva, asuryam becomes asuriam. Also, the visargah is being spelt च्छ् instead of ह्.
DeleteI do not mean in a vocabulary sense. I am a novice on these technical terms so what i meant by avestan was it sounded like an avestan chant to my ears
And the attempt seems to be like as if someone is trying to touch the upper palare of their mouth and chant.
While I am not an expert in Vedic chanting, I do perform sandhyavandanam etc (like I am pretty orthodox guy) so it does sound erroneous to me. Like if we do padapatha of the way he has chanted, I feel it may not fit properly.
I did send the video to a rigvedic pundit and requested him to see what is it and wants the deal. Waiting for the reply.
The person claims that he is doing this based on the pratisakhyas. The pratisakhyas make clear distinctions between monothongs and diphthongs.
So what i felt was that if diphthongs flattened into monothongs, why only at specific places. Rigveda still today has defined diphthongs.
I couldn't understand by what you meant here.
But it could be that the toning was initially based on the udatta-anudatta-etc. tones alone and then bacame more elaborate and varied with the passage of time:
What the guy who did the reconstruction has to say on reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheVedasAndUpanishads/s/AHbYPcZSM4
Another reconstruction by a different individual
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheVedasAndUpanishads/s/9rJ0fB3EFF
As I said, I cannot answer for or against these reconstructions on Vedic chanting. In any case, in my books and articles I have quoted Deshpande (a colleague of Witzel) saying that originally the hymns may have been pronounced with diphthongs which were later finally reduced to monothongs.
DeleteBut what is the reason to assume diphthongs wrre reduced to monothongs
DeleteAnd just asking, which vedam do you belong to??
DeleteI personally have no reason to make assumptions about anything. It is Deshpande who has said it in reply to the claim that the Rigveda is later than the Avesta because it has monothings. And about your question, Saraswats as a whole are Rigvedic brahmins, but the reason I studied the Rigveda is not because I "belong to" it but because it is the oldest and the most relevant one for IE studies.
DeleteThanks for the reply ji 🙏
DeleteRigveda doesn't mention bricks right ?? So does this mean they didn't do elaborate yajnas ??
DeleteI am quite confused in these topics.
Also, were the harappa like the people in the sindhu Saraswati civilization Vedic??
Is it pre rigvedic, rigvedic or post rigvedic??
And what do you think of the decipherment of Bharath Rao, aka. Yajnadevam??
So does deshpande say that avesta predates the rigveda ??
DeleteDoes that person have a blog like this ??